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Wearing a Crown for His Glory with Tiffany Rogers, Mrs. Virginia America 2020

Tiffany Rogers is the 2020 Mrs. Virginia America. She wears a crown, but most importantly, she wears the crown that God put on her as His princess. Her heart is clearly seen in her foundation, Hope 4 Healing, as well as her spirit. Enjoy this special time with her and be sure to tune in to the Mrs. America pageant on March 27th to cheer her on!

Key Takeaways

How her little girl inspired her journey

How mental health is important to her and her mission

The importance of purpose

About Tiffany:

Tiffany Rogers is an iPEC trained Life Coach and has additional training with the Life Coach School. She has spent countless hours helping others become the best possible versions of themselves. Her greatest JOY comes from seeing her client's CONQUER life in a way they never imagined they could. Tiffany has been called DREAM MAKER because her clients can finally see their true potential and break through whatever thought patterns are holding them back from achieving their goals. Whatever it is you want to achieve, Tiffany will walk alongside you on your life journey to achieve your aspirations. You already are GREAT- and she will make you BELIEVE this TRUTH!

Tiffany resides in Virginia with her husband Carl, four precious children and her four legged friend, Wrigley. In her spare time, she enjoys beach life and boating. Tiffany has competed in pageants and loves the self-growth that comes with pageantry. Her passion is helping others through her community outreach initiative, Hope 4 Healing. Tiffany is also an advocate for mental health and has partnered with Runway2Life to bring awareness to the importance of nurturing and protecting our mental health. Tiffany holds the title Mrs. Virginia America 2020.

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Show Notes: Wearing a Crown for His Glory

Tamra Andress

There is an actual beauty queen on the show today, and I don't say that lightly, and I don't mean it figuratively. Miss Virginia America 2020, Tiffany Rogers joins us today to showcase and share all of the journey that she has been on over the last few years and how she's continuing to serve even with the crown and even thereafter. If you don't know already, Miss America is going to be live on the screen March 27th from Vegas. And we want to cheer our girl on.

After you hear this show, you're going to no doubt have a sweet spot for her. She is a gem. So noble, a mother of four, with just a heart for God, which ultimately we want wearing the crown. Right? Such a representation of His crown. So I hope you enjoy today. Check out her foundation, Hope for Healing and all of the different areas of coaching. And I'm so grateful to be with her, so thanks again, Tiffany, for being here.

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All right, welcome. Welcome to the show. We're so excited to have you and all the beauty queens that are listening, you guys are getting a firsthand experience with the one and only Tiffany Rogers, who is also Miss Virginia America, Mrs. America Virginia. How do I say

Tiffany Rogers

Mrs. Virginia America.

Tamra Andress

There she is in all her glory. We're so excited to have you here. Not only is she a fellow friend, she's a sister in Christ. She is a fellow beauty queen. And I am just so grateful to kind of hear about her story as a mama journeying into this Mrs. Virginia role. But so much more than that, because she has just a heart of gold. And I am excited to hear about the community work that you do, the outpouring of servant leadership that you example to so many women.

And we're just grateful to have you here. So thanks for being here, Tiffany.

Tiffany Rogers

Awesome. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor. So tell us a bit about like I can kind of do your rap sheet. Right. But I want to know, like the heart of Tiffany, how you got into what you're doing today and how we can kind of get into the backstory of who you are.

OK, well, it's actually been an amazing journey that I started back in twenty eighteen. Actually, my daughter Noelle actually inspired me to do my first pageant ever. I had never, ever done a pageant. I always wanted to. It was always a dream of mine. But I just was like, no, not today. You know, how we start putting off being female? And so one day she came home off the bus and she was just like defeated.

Like, she was like crying and just having this very little room on vulnerable moment. And she struggles with reading because of her dyslexia. So we always talk about, like, our God gives us strength and God gives us weaknesses. And we need to kind of amplify our strengths and know that our weaknesses are OK. And he gives us the grace to, you know, get by day to day. So I was just holding her little face in my hands and I just said to her, like, we believe in you so much.

But none of this matters if you don't believe in yourself. And I said, I need to know that, you know, well, believe in yourself. And she's like, Mom, I totally believe in myself. But do you like she kind of, like, flipped it on me.

Oh, my God. It is on our hands. And I was like, well, why would you say that? And she was like, Mom, you just do everything for everyone else all the time. But I believe you can do anything you want to do. So if there's something in you that you want to do, I think you should do it. It was kind of like this aha moment, Carol.

Tamra Andress

That's right. It goes straight from the voice of God, right through your baby girl. Yes.

And so I just it kind of shook me a little bit because I feel like I was being a good wife and a good mom of four and helping my husband run his business. But at the end of the day, I didn't really have anything that just signed my name, Tiffany, to like something that I just do for me and to help other people or whatever. So I went to bed that night praying, God, what is it that you want me to do that scares and that scares me.

Like what should I do to myself? Like send myself into this uncomfortable zone where we grew up. And I woke up the next morning and I just it's like I'm going to do a pageant, like I'm going to do the Miss Virginia pageant. And I just kind of thought it was crazy, how am I doing? But I signed up that day and I just kind of never looked back. I was like, this is what I'm going to do and I'm going to do it scared.

It's just ironic because I don't even really like to be the center of attention. I love that so much. There is like so much goodness in so many parts of that story, both from like listening to our children and also understanding how they perceive us as women, as moms, as home like coordinators. The home videos. Right. So incredible one that you then took what she said and then activated it. What a noble thing for her to be able to witness one that she was like a component of that catapult, but also to say, wow, mommy really hears me like a really, truly hears me.

And I think often when we're like in the midst of regularity and in the midst of a comfort zone, like you are saying, we don't all often take that step back to analyze what we're doing on a day to day, because we do put our kids, we do put our husbands. We do put especially from a monetary perspective, both of our husbands are entrepreneurs. They actually work in the same kind of field. And so we know the importance of their role and therefore we put them in that space and that we kind of come second, not in a negative way, in an ongoing way right now.

So I just love that so much that she has that example. I'm curious. I'm sure she was like your biggest fan ever the entire time she was.

And then I actually ended up getting first runner up the. And I was blown away because I one had never done a pageant to I was up there with Eileen Vega, Mrs. Virginia twenty eighteen, who had done a couple of Mrs. Virginny pageants, and then she had been in pageantry her whole life to be on that stage with her and holding her hand and kind of just like when they called our names, just kind of like, you know, I was talking to her like I'm so glad we're on this journey together.

And just kind of being a cheerleader for her, for her reign was really, really cool.

Wow. So I don't actually know, like, anything that goes into the back end of what you guys do to go through this process. I know it's a long journey. It's not just like you signed up and now you're on stage. I'd love to hear, like, what was that like? And as you were journeying through that and stepping out of your comfort zone, especially not being like the typical probably extrovert that you're alongside with a lot of pageant girls or women talk this through, like what was the psyche like?

What was the mental health like and the spiritual journey as you were doing this?

Well, I definitely did rely on God every single day because I feel like when we signed up to do something for the glory of the kingdom of God, the enemy will try to put roadblocks in our ways. And that's just how it is. And so, you know, of course, like just, you know, like I said, I woke up and I was like, I'm going to do this. But then the next day I was like, why did I sign up?

Like, why am I putting myself out there? And so just kind of like working on the space between my two years, which we all need to work on that headspace and all. We just need to go forward and know that God will provide each and every day. And it doesn't matter the outcome of the exact pageant, it kind of is about the journey is which is which is I kind of learned that, you know, walking through it.

I actually ended up signing up to do the pageant in twenty nineteen. And for some reason I just kind of I kind of felt this tug, it was like, Tiff, it's not your time. And Karl, my husband was of course my biggest cheerleader. And he's like, no, you still need to do what you still need to do it. And I was like, I don't know, I just feel weird about this year. Like, I feel like it's just not my year for some reason.

And he was still encouraging me. And then I think it was like a week later he called me on the phone and he said, I signed up for this life coaching school in Austin and said at the tuition money, but I can bring a guest with me to also get certified. And he said, do want to come and do I love to go with you? And I said, when is it? And it was the exact same day of the twenty nineteen pageant while we knew God was calling me into life coaching to prepare me for my brain.

As this is written in twenty twenty. How amazing is that.

That's so cool. So you go, you get this life coach certification and then you still felt prompted. You were like this is something I really want to do. So you went for it. And then in the midst of covid became like, how did you still get to activities? You just didn't have people in the crowd, but you still had to do all the fiduciary duties. Right?

Right. So for the twenty twenty pageant, we still we were allowed to have a smaller audience at that point. But we so I kind of feel like God was just prepare me for this year because it's not about the glitz and the glamor. It's never been about that for me. It's about sharing my heart, helping other women, helping other people. And I would I'm still able to promote my platform for healing. Hope for healing was kind of a journey that has come about like a couple of years span.

And my mom actually was walking through breast cancer when I kind of was praying on my I was on my knees praying in my room. It was like the day before I found out that she was positive for breast cancer. And I was just praying and praying about it and settled and God just to be with her no matter what her journey is. And I opened my eyes and I was praying and I saw this rainbow concentrated on my hand and I just felt this peace come over me.

And God was saying to me, she's going to be OK no matter what. But then the next morning I went with her and found out that she had breast cancer. So hope for healing is kind of a comin out. Just let her and I have done suffering postpartum anxiety and depression. And I had I was diagnosed with a chronic disease and actually able to overcome through my faith. And so healing was kind of just if you look at my Embla, it's the prayer hands in the for awareness ribbon that I have personally affected my life.

And so I feel like through my reign in Twenty Twenty Koban is crazy right now. People are on edge. People need help. I've partnered with Runway to Life, which is a it's based out of Richmond, it's nonprofit, and they work with people to bring awareness to mental health and suicide prevention. So I'm able to go through an online support group. I helped formulate that for them. And now I post in the postpartum anxiety, overcoming postpartum anxiety and depression group for them.

So I feel like this year has been a year of just God has been telling me you have to create it and it's not glamorous. But remember, Jesus was born in a manger and that was one of the most important events that's ever happened. And it wasn't glamorous. But I feel like sometimes in the trenches where it's not pretty, that's where the the most important work is done.

Yeah, that's such a good word for so many reasons. And I'm thinking of you and like the difference that it probably would have been to to be in this quote unquote, rain when public events were still happening and all of this would have been going on. That didn't necessarily happen. And yet you still were pursuing actually the true mission that you had not only in the first time signing up, that there was more of this of impact, this outreach program, these healing opportunities that you wanted to be a part of, rather than just showing up and showcasing a crown.

Right. Like it really gives God the glory. So it's almost like he paved the way for you to have this experience in this specific season versus 12, 19 versus twenty eighteen. And yet, like you said at the very beginning, it's all about this process. And so I love that you leaned into that and are still like activated in that space. You guys, I hope you hear like the value of really understanding your testimony and knowing that God uses every single piece for good.

And every trial point is an opportunity for you to then transition into the truth for other people to have that healing as well. So to me, that's so, so honorable. It's like so you're always been this like calm, like sweet natured, like woman that I've just admired, especially as a mother. And we have kids the same age, so there's that as well. But I feel like this is life coaching. This experience of what you've gone through is truly like the next season.

Right? So, like, if you fast forward and you're like, what am I going to do after this? Do you see yourself still in the pageantry setting or transitioning more into your nonprofit work?

So I actually have been thinking about that a little bit of my reign as Miss Virginia will be over in May, and I don't know the answer to that. But I always thought that this was a bucket list thing for me, that I was going to unpack and accomplish that goal and help other people to remain and then be done with the pageant side of it. So I believe it might be my last pageant, the Miss America pageant that's coming up, because whatever I'm open to, whatever got me, I can't really say either way.

But in my mind, I'm like, oh, yeah, I've checked that box. You know, I'm so happy to be Virginia at twenty twenty and I will still continue to for work after just like I was I was doing freelance work before I realized I just wasn't really sharing it on social media with pageants you always share and you kind of want to help motivate people to kind of find their own niche in kind of others in their own ways.

So let's go, let's go. Let's take a like way back. Right. Like so this is like twenty eighteen perspective. I want to know the Tiffany that like pre kids pre Karl, like what were you like growing up and like where did you see yourself going and leading. Like what direction of, of life and wholeness. How long were you in your faith. Like give us the backstory.

So I was raised in the faith. My parents were both Catholic, I was always raised in the church. But like I mean, I've just always known Jesus as my savior. But I feel like sometimes, like, you know, we have questions in our mind and things like that. So I went through a period of like questioning my faith and things like that. And then God has drawn me back. But I have the same God wink in so many different ways in my life that one hundred and ten percent.

I know that he's real and working and alive, so I have no questions anymore. But I feel like for those who might be out there and they're struggling with their faith because of hard times or, you know, certain things in the world, just please know that he's still there, even in the hard times that when we are growing the most and he always brings darkness into light and he will turn your hardships and your struggles into something good eventually.

So I just want to I love that so much. And so it's. So necessary for people to have that and like you said, the parallel of timing on what it is right now where people are feeling that isolation and that distance when because you don't practice Catholicism now. Correct. Because a lot more nondenominational church. Yes. We go to Trinity. That's right. OK, OK. So tell me about like that transition. Was it after you were in that kind of questioning state that you had to go to different types of churches?

How did you go about that process? Because I think a lot of people feel like because of what they were rooted in and the learning of faith or religion when they were younger, it's the only thing, right? There's only one Lindsey. So how did you end up discovering different lenses of your faith?

OK, well, I always I have great respect for the Catholic Church, and I was actually still going to the Catholic Church when I was pregnant with my lack of experience. So four years ago. And I look up every single morning and go to church, the Catholic Church, early in the morning. I like that they have hours that are different from other churches and I always go there open every day. But it was me and my husband were having a conversation and I said, babe, I just want us to be on the same page with our faith, because he was right.

He was like and then he grew up in like a nondenominational Lutheran and then nondenominational church. So we were kind of just trying to figure out, like, what do we want to be as far as where do we want to be our family? And he just kind of said to me, I don't know if I want to go through the whole process of becoming Catholic because I feel like I really want to go to a church where the pastor can be married and they understand, like just because they live that family unit like to go through as married people.

And, you know, when our kids are having issues or just when life happens, he really wanted to be involved in a church that was Jesus at the center, but also had that aspect of, you know, if we ever needed to go to the pastor, like they were truly like maybe understand exactly what we were experiencing. That's really good. Yeah, I had thought about it like that. It's interesting. I love that. Yeah.

So my daughter Noelle is friends with her little friend. Lucy wanted to have a sleepover and Pastor R is the pastor at Trinity and that's Lucy's dad. And basically I said, you know, we would love to have Lucy over for a sleepover. And Lucy's mom said, well, we have church tomorrow, so I don't know if it's going to happen. And I was like, well, we'll just bring her to your church and we'll check it out.

And that's where we just been because we felt more like Lucy kind of leading us to Trinity.

So now that's like a big difference, right? Like there is like a pretty big difference in the process and even just the time frame that you're sitting in church. And how did your spirit like how did you feel? Was it immediately like, wow, this is like such a different this is home? It's so interesting that we're having this conversation because I just had this whole conversation of with my mom on Sunday morning, yesterday morning about her going and experiencing a funeral in the Catholic faith.

I think the same church that you might have been going to and just her Lindsey and her perspective of the ceremony versus what she was used to growing up. So I think it's it's a valid conversation that doesn't happen very often, especially in public. And so thank you for being vulnerable and also still honoring, because I know that that's important to you, especially for your parents.

Right. And and I was like I said, I still love the traditions of the Catholic Church. The difference between the church, the Catholic Church and Trinity really is like the music aspect. I'm so moved by music. Yeah. And I half the time I just sit there and just cry like I sing, I cry and I cry and I don't know what it is, but I mean, if I hear kids singing, I'm crying. And it's just the music really moves me at this church.

And I just love the pastor, pastor and Pastor Art. They've been really amazing. But again, St. John's has been good to it's just it's just I wanted us to experience church as a family and for everyone to be on the same page. So, yeah, I love that so much.

Thank you for sharing. It's so funny because we can get into these conversations. And I was telling Tiffany right before we get on the show, though, like, I don't prep people. I'm just like, hey, come on, let's just enjoy a conversation together. It's in the afternoon and I can't drink coffee in the afternoon, but I always say it's like a coffee conversation. And so it's one of those times where you don't know where the conversation is going to lead.

But the fact that there was like that moment that happened yesterday and then my first experience yesterday, then this conversation today, it's like it's so purpose, it's so ordained. So you actually said that there's been a lot of that has happened just in the last couple months where you're just like Adam, you're like, I see God so predominant. You want to give us a bit of a peek into what those experiences have been like? Yeah, I mean, some of them are really personal, but just I mean, even in like I'm sure you've seen it with your husband's business, how sometimes when one door closes, God will just fling open other doors and sometimes for morning the door that closed and we're like, look, I'm in business with my husband just in my life coaching business, people reaching out more and just wanting help, I think, and maybe have had a lot to do with that as well.

But also through the runway to life, which I was telling you about, I'm actually seeing Runway to Life. It's a nonprofit, but it actually, if you look closely, it's a ministry is so many people being delivered from depression and anxiety and thoughts of suicide and coming to the Lord and really finding peace in the Lord through runway to life. So just being involved in that and kind of hearing the stories going on behind the scenes has been absolutely I mean, mind blowing.

So just I mean, so many ways my you know, through my children's lives and they're at a new school this year because of covid. And we weren't sure how that was going to go. And we really needed our daughter to be at a school like in person. The way you learn and just seeing the blessings come out of that has been really cool. And I don't think that we would have ever thought about private school if it did not happen.

So especially in middle school for girls, I have to say, like I was like on my knees praying about God, where do we put her in middle school? Like, what are we going to do? And I just seem like her relationship with her friends looming in girls, uplifting other girls. And it's just been really, really amazing is incredible and very different than my middle school experience. Actually, I'm assuming, you know, Sean Thompson, D'Agostino's, great women.

So if she wants watching to call her, she's amazing. I haven't got to connect with her as an adult, but she was my fourth grade most favorite ever teacher. And when I jumped into middle school, which is what we were talking about in the perfect Segway, I was I was really bullied. And I even though I still had, like a good group of friends and I still pursue the things that I loved, there was like this wrestling that was always happening.

And I actually recently started working out with one of the gals who was, quote unquote, somebody who bullied me. And I remember seeing her at five in the morning walking. And, you know, you're kind of already in a vulnerable state, like you're like just like barely brush your teeth coming into the jam like nobody's paying attention to who I am. And I saw her and I was like, oh, like my my heart started to race.

I remember, like, all the emotions that occurred when that happened. And then I thought to myself, what a circle of life that we're standing right next to each other in a same season, same age, doing the exact same thing, bettering our bodies, bettering our being. And still like similar statue differences. Dacher, differences. And I was just like, oh, my goodness. And so a couple of days later took me actually a little bit of time to actually be like, hey, how's it going?

You know, I remember me. Remember me.

And so it's just I just believe that, you know, even in the middle school, even in that process of evolution, that there are so many safe harbors to that we as moms have not only a responsibility, but an opportunity to stand alongside them. But it circles back so beautifully to the heart that you've instilled in Noelle to be able to boldly walk into that process because transitioning schools is also a scary thing, being in a virtual setting like so many parents kids are and parents are experiencing, that's also overwhelming.

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So as a life coach, when you're when you're having these conversations with people like what area? Because there's so many different styles and genres of life coaching and business coaching. Evan, what is your heartbeat towards that? Is it really attacking those mindsets and things first or.

Right. Yeah, so the limiting beliefs and all of that. But I think to I went to EPIK training and so I don't know if you're not familiar with IPAC, but I'm not. They have the philosophy that every person knows exactly what they need in life. You might you might just not know the questions to find the answer. So my job really as a life coach is to ask people the hard questions and they come up with the answer on their own and they have these incredible aha moments.

Wow. Like when I was being trained in Austin, I remember having a five minute it only took five minutes coaching session with one of my peers. And you know, even though I was honored to be first runner up, I still had questions of like what I feel like as women we do what should I have done better or what could I have done better? And I kind of like ruminating on this whole thought that I could have done something better in the first pageant I was in, even though I gave it my all.

And I it was just I feel like in pageantry, it's just whoever audience for that year, any of those women on stage, like the year that I won the Your Eilene won the year that someone could have done the job. It's just who who does God have in store for that year and to serve his purpose. And we all serve our purpose that weekend during the pageant, no matter what. I believe that. But but anyway, so this five minute coaching session and I ended up realizing that the whole time I was ruminating on that one, what could I have done better instead of the things that I've done at Virginia Beach where I was?

I remember you Tamra I wrote a post or something kind of just like very raw. And you were like, you have touched so many lives. And it was kind of the same thing that you had said to me. And I like and I'll never forget the words that you said because it really helped me get through that time, because I feel like when we were doing something that we're so passionate about and maybe we don't play as well as we want, we can kind of have that crash.

We're like, what? What's done better? And you really, to me, get through that that day and that week. So I love that so much.

And it's so crazy because, like the algorithm, right. Like, you never know what's going to happen. I never know. It's not like I see every single post that you make. And I just I honestly think that God has so much more at hand in social media and in all this virtual experience than we could possibly ever know. I always say like my algorithm, because ultimately life is the one that puts the opportunities in front of us.

He's the one who ordains the time for each of us individually. And it's all working together for his greater purpose is greater plan. And I think even people who you said that, like you had all these open doors and all these opportunities with new people coming in, in need of life coaching, had you not, like, pursued what was inside of your gut, in your heart of hearts at the time to say, I don't think this year for me you wouldn't have been at that school, which then wouldn't have led to the opportunities of people coming into the community with you in this way.

So it's just. It's really stewarding what the Holy Spirit is depositing into us, and so you mentioned earlier, like your prayer, you mentioned earlier music and worship. I'm curious, like in your intimacy with God, like what additional things do you do to support your faith and maybe even within your home and then your pursuit of being in a pageant?

Well, right now, I just feel like my prayer life, like trying to just include God in my prayer life every single day or every single night. There's so many times in our lives where we're trying to solve problems on our own. And what we don't realize is that when we when we fall down our heads and honor God and pray about it, he is out there fighting our battles for us. And half the time we're carrying the weight of the world on our shoulder when really we need to be just giving it to God.

So that's what I've been really doing. But my prayer for my reign and thereafter is just to be his hands and feet and for him to show me what he wants me to do with my life and just honoring his purpose for me and how can I help other people through him. So that's basically that's pretty much it.

It's so beautiful, but it's such a huge call. That's a huge, like prayer even to be a vessel that that he can just steward well and is just staying as close as we possibly can in that process of of learning and him opening the doors and closing the other ones, just like you mentioned. I'm curious when you're in the pageant world, because I feel a lot of times and I used to watch them a lot and I haven't as much since being an adult, but it feels like a it's very faith filled.

And that's not like that's not a what's the word I'm looking for something that you have to have to come in to be in the pageant world. And so but do you find like a lot of the women were in their faith?

I do. I do. I've seen so many women that have won the pageant that have been Christians or faith based in some way. And I just think it's really awesome that God is using people and he's using pageantry to other people. So that's really what it's about. It's really cool.

It reminds me so much of, obviously, the story of Esther, and I'm sure you guys might have even studied that in that process. Right. There's so many parallels to being the one who is chosen in that regard.

But I love that you you showcased that that role, that feeling, that emotion, that dowl Evan that you didn't do enough. And I think as women specifically and I wonder, I need to, like, get all I have guys on the podcast all the time, but I need to ask them, like, do they ever not feel enough? Do they ever not feel worthy? And I'm sure they do, but they don't showcase it in the same way.

We have a comparison then we have our own self-doubt that actually can be so crippling towards what God has in store for us. It's like he's got this beautiful package. He wants you to open it and you're like, oh, I just can't. There's just something keeping you back from, like, the fullness of who he is and the fullness of his promise. So as you step into like this next season, not really, really knowing after this half the actor may in your passing the crown.

Right. Like what this next season looks like, other than still following in line with the testimonies and the pieces of your heart that you want to continue to showcase, how what advice can you give in stepping out in fear? Because it's exactly what you did when you woke up that morning.

And like I'm doing this fear might be in the way, but I'm not going to let it stop me just at scared and just know that every single day that you're you're trying and you're and you keep going, God is going to direct your path. He's going to go before you. He's going to open the right cause he's going to close the right doors. And I am I'm so thankful because looking back on my life, I can see that door doors it got in his clothes.

And I feel like it's always for protection. It wasn't for me. And that's my prayer for everyone, is that God opens the doors for you and he slams the doors that aren't meant for you. And sometimes that seems hard when it's something that you think that you really want. But sometimes the truth of the matter is it's not for you. It's so good.

And you got people on who are like, say that again, say that.

So I think what you're talking about for men, I feel like men aren't as vulnerable because they see it as a sign of weakness. Where I feel like when we talk about the true, honest, hard in the mud stuff, I feel like that gives us freedom and it's empowering and it brings confidence. So my I always just want to be real with people. One hundred percent.

So this morning I was on a call with a guy who actually said this past year of his life he's just literally catapulted into this understanding of who God is. And in his faith, he was able to through faith he's done a bazillion, 12 step programs. He was able to release alcoholism that had blanketed his life for so long just by coming to know Jesus more intimately. He got married during that season. He moved across country. He got a new job like.

In the blink of an eye in the middle of covid, and I just believe that, like it's a matter and his response was that it was all through submission. But he said the words authenticity extends to authority.

And I was like, oh, my gosh, that is freedom factor to be fully you and not let a bully or not let anybody keep you back from one his promises, but the identity that he sees in you. And that's like the most beautiful thing is because we can stand in the mirror and feel not enough. But if we stand within his beautiful adoration, just like us as mom, to see our babies and all of their perfection, no matter what we see.

And then we know that their they have their weaknesses just like we all do. But we just idolize them. We just honor them. We just we can't get rid of their sweetness. That's how he feels about us as his children. And so I just want to say thank you for the authenticity, because I've seen the evolution of that in you and you being more vocal and more transparent. And I know that it's just blessings. So many people.

Thank you. And I think it's too like getting the word and just knowing what God has to say about us, because the world can be harsh sometimes, to be honest. You know, whenever you put yourself out there, you're going to have criticism. You're going to have people come in to you, especially if you're doing kingdom work. That's the nature of it. And just knowing, like, well, I'm not perfect, but God says I'm just this and that and I'm amazing.

And I have Grace because he gives me grace and I can stay the course because he's directing my steps.

And he is because you being in your faith and just being just I always think of the word noble when I think of you. And it's like when you were growing up and even walking into this season, did you feel like you had to change your circle of influence at all or that there have been people or relationship that you feel like you've had to shed in the process of becoming and even being in your faith the way that you are?

I mean, I feel like whenever we walk through life, there's always going to be friendships that are for a reason, a season or a lifetime. And it's just praying about the wisdom to know the people that maybe aren't aren't there for your next step. It doesn't mean that you don't love them. You can love them for from afar. But sometimes that does have to happen where it's like, OK, well, I'm just not feeling like maybe it could be even growing separate ways and that's OK.

But I mean, just praying for the wisdom to know who's coming to your next location and who's not. But then also I would say that I don't have any enemies in my life. Like even if there's been disagreements, I always wish them well. I pray for people and I come from a place of love. And it doesn't mean that just to be part of this agreement doesn't mean that you can't love from afar. And it just doesn't mean sometimes it just means they're not coming with you to the next place.

And that's OK. And I feel like people you, me, are just, you know, it's just a part of our story. And I don't know if that's. Yeah.

It's so good. And it's like, you know, people will deposit certain things and you take that with you or you leave it be. But I think that that's a really beautiful way of showcasing that season a reason or a lifetime.

And I love that little nugget right there. I think it's really good and something to think about Evan for not just people, but things. Right. And I say things I don't mean like a tangible thing, but I mean the opportunities. I mean experiences. I mean jobs. I mean health situations that happen. And knowing that even in those situations that feel like a crisis and inclusive of what happened with your mom, what's the finale of that story?

How is she today? She's doing so well. She's cancer free now. God, she just is. It's actually been through a year long battle and the chemo and all that. So she did you know, she lost her hair and her career started to grow back. It's so pretty in her way. She likes the long hair, but she's doing a lot better. It's just like getting her strength back and she's getting it back a little bit more every day.

So we're really thankful that she's getting back to normal. So that's amazing.

I love that so much. The end on a high note. Yeah. This is so good. I am so grateful for you, Tiffany. I love your transparency. You guys please connect with Tiffany. Where is like where do you hang out the most on social media or anything like that? Website on Facebook.

I'm Tiffany Rogers and on Instagram I'm time with Tiffany.

Nice. You guys is both tagged in the links here I of the show. Please get in touch with her. Follow along with her journey, see what's next in her reign, but more importantly, it's a lifetime, right? And so you always have a crown in our eyes. We're so grateful for everything that you're putting out into the community, for the Jesus that you follow and the Jesus that you leave everywhere you go.

Thank you so much for having me. And you have been so inspiring, inspiring to me over the years. I want you to know that that I've loved watching your journey as well. So we're in this together, Sister Joy. Still, it's still a good friend.

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