Sharing the Love of God with Marcus Ellis
I love you really, really, truly I do. We both do. Today's guest is a lover of humanity - every color, shape, size, background, belief system, any, and all of the above. Marcus Ellis truly just wants to display the love of the Father to you, even if you're a stranger. He is a coach, a speaker, and a rock star - what a cool combination.
I am so honored to call him a friend. You guys are going to dive into the depths of his story, and you're going to see yourself in his story. You're going to see it in the hardship. You're going to see it in his placement. You're going to see it in the religious spirit that can sometimes keep you bound into a place of discomfort or that you can't do this calling on your life because it's not associated to God. Well, who is to say when God releases you? Who can cast blame or shift focus? God has already created your plan, path, unique gift, and talents. He's opening doors for you to step into territories that maybe the "church" isn't inviting.
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As a devout man of Christ, a dedicated husband and father of five beautiful children, and a performer called to use the gift of his voice for more than music, Marcus' life has been transformed by fully surrendering to God. Performing professionally as a lead vocalist in Rock and Funk bands across the southeast for over 25 years, Marcus is now the lead vocalist for White Tie Rock Ensemble, a world-renowned Classic Rock tribute band. In the current late stages of his singing career, he prayed to heal his voice and received a download from God in the form of a calling. The calling is to remain on the big stage and use his voice, not only to sing but to speak and to ease the world's suffering by becoming a Spreader of Love. His mission is to share God's splendor through a simple question and answer, "Hey! Guess What? I Love You", one random stranger at a time. He prays to impact others by simply being a conduit of God's grace and love.
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Show Notes: Sharing the Love of God
Hey guess what I love you really, really, truly we do. We both do. Today's guest is a lover. He is a lover of humanity, every color, shape, size background, belief system, any, and all of the above. And he truly just wants to display the love of the father to you, even if you're a strange. He is a coach, a speaker, and a rock star.
What a cool combination. And I am so honored to call him friend. You guys are going to dive into the depths of his story, and you're going to see yourself in his story. You're going to see it in the hardship. You're going to see it in this placement. You're going to see it in the religious spirit that could sometimes keep you bound into a place of discomfort.
And yet they say. For you, right. Or that you can't do this calling on your life because it's not associated to God. Well, who is to say when God releases you, who is to blame cast or shift focus or to construct what it is that God has already created, your plan, your path, your unique gift and talents. He's opening doors for you in order to step into territories that maybe the church quote unquote isn't inviting.
He's invited and you're invited to this conversation and into friendship with the one and only Marcus Ellis. You're going to love him. You gotta tune in into his morning show five 30 in the morning, Eastern standard time. And he's out running and teaching and preaching. And he also has a podcast that the zone and I there's so many things you just got to get in community and he'll be a grow for God.
Later this year, grow for God con www dot grow for God. Con is the place that you can get your tickets right now. And that way you can do what he does best Haggadah. Love a friend and just go up to a stranger and be the love of the Lord. Be the like neighbor that were intended to be artists. I love you brother.
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Hey, guess what? I love you more. Is that not amazing or of the show, which feels wild and I am so excited that you are among one of the first guests to be with me in the new year, mainly because of the momentum from 2021 that I feel like. Surge of energy connected to you towards your mission, but also just what God is doing in the midst of all of his children.
And so it's, it's rad to be connected to you, Marcus, and I'm so excited to introduce you to the fit and faith committee. Amen. Well, thank you so much for having me. It's an honor. I, you know, I love you dearly sister and, uh, It really is. And we already got some people on, on watching his live shares here, share shout out.
We love you. And Janice, you love some Marcus. Kelly is in the house as well. It's going to be an epic show. And if you don't know this about Marcus, you're going to learn that he is a multifaceted human being when we were praying, even before this, you know, I, I. As we step into the episode every single time, one that we would just be able to glorify God through the words that we use, but also our relationship and the example that we said, but there's something so special about him and God in the sense that they show up in every single realm and they're confident and comfortable.
Places. And one of those faces the fact that you have been in the rock and roll rock and funk industry for over 25 years, he is basically a rock and roll superstar and a vocalist of the white tie rock ensemble, which is a classic rock tribute band. And he's phenomenal. And so I just love that God is in the midst of all sounds, and it doesn't matter necessarily the genre, it's the heart of the man that he looks.
Wow. I mean, I don't even know what to say after that. And I'm going to say, congratulations. You're the first one ever to get white tie, rock ensemble correctly. They'll say white tie rock. They'll say white tie ensemble. You're the first one to get white tie rock ensemble. Correct. So congratulations and thank you for that, uh, research you live I've yet to see you live in action, but I know that that's going to happen this year, so I cannot wait.
Thank you. So talk us through the evolution of, of being in that ensemble of being a rock and roll superstar. And was your faith like always in the midst of that evolution? Good question. Um, I've always been a rock and roll kid. It was my thing. Um, my first love was the Beatles and my dad and mom, they would reward me with base hits with Beatles.
So by the time I was eight years old, I have had every Beatle record. I knew everything about them. It used to drive my dad crazy and he's the one who turned me on to it. So I was always into that. I was always going to church. I grew up going to church. Uh, I grew up in the Southern Baptist church. Uh, I was baptized at 10 years old and in 1982.
Um, and I will say that I have called a couple of our friends that, you know, and I'm going to be baptized again this year. Oh gosh. Not as the best experience. I'm so excited for you. Well, the thing is, you know, when you're a child, you know, you, you definitely have that thing, you know? And, and I feel like children sometimes are closer to God.
Right. But as we grow up and as I went through my evolution and really got into the music, you know, other things kind of. Got into that. Right. And I always had my relationship with God and I'm still answering your question by the way. I always had my relationship with God and I always prayed, um, mostly to forgive me for my sins because I was doing so much that I probably shouldn't have done.
Exactly, uh, live in that rock and roll lifestyle and I love to go see live music. That was my thing. Um, and I really got into the grateful dead, which is, uh, you know, as a traveling circus, if you will. And I went for the music, you know, a lot of people were like, oh, you went for the drugs or you went for the people.
No, I was really, really into the music. You know, I saw them 122 times and there was times where there's songs that I saw them play once. And then songs. I saw them play 50 times. So I was in. Yes, there was a lot of stuff I shouldn't been doing involved in that. And then as I came out of that, I decided. Not be on the audience side of the stage, but to be on the performing side of states, I always could sing.
I knew I could. That was my gift. Uh, so I started playing in bands at 27. Now I did have garage bands at 1215, that type of thing. But at 27 I started playing in, uh, like you said, funk bands. I had a band called good foot, uh, after the James Brown song get on the good foot. That was great. And I did that for 10 years and, but it was the clubs and the bars, and I had kids and, you know, I was out late and, you know, I would get home at 3:00 AM, sleep for three hours, get up at six, takes the kids to school, go to work, that type of thing.
So I decided after 10 years I was gonna, you know, hang up my cleats and. And my dear brother in a right Tyreque ensemble, who runs the whole thing. Jonathan Clark called me a couple months after that. And, uh, he, he said, Hey, I'm going to do a couple of one-off shows. We're going to introduce the orchestra kids.
He and my wife and his wife teach the Escambia county honors orchestra. So he said, we want to teach the kids more than Bach and Beethoven. We want to teach, teach them Beatles pink, Floyd led Zeppelin. So I said, okay, what's the first show? And he said, uh, pink Floyd, dark side of the moon. And I said, okay, Um, you know, I just quit playing and he said, yeah, I know.
And I said, so I'm really not interested, but I like what you're doing with the kids. So I'll do that. But I have two conditions, he said, okay. And I said, the first condition is I have nothing to do with the business side of it. I'm done. Cause in good foot. I was I buddy agent. I was the tax man. I did everything.
And so then when we started white tie, he said, okay, I'll do that. And then I said, the second thing is we have to play Beatles Abbey road. And he said, okay. And so coincidentally, our next show, April 23rd is Beatles Abbey road and the 10,000 seat arena. So 10 years removed from that, you know, we've grown and advanced.
Well, everybody in the band was in, in a praise and worship band. They golf breeze, United Methodist church. They still are. And so I, I love that. I always had my faith and I was like, wow, these guys can be in rock and roll, but still be Christians and do their jam. So that was great. And I started attending church.
They are golfers United Methodist. We'll fast forward to the, the middle of 2021. I'm now kumbaya and with my acoustic guitar with Jonathan and his wife, Virginia playing cello, leading worship at worship at the water, which is flounders bar restaurant that when it's shut down, we're running shirts. So that's a, long-winded answer to say it's been a journey, you know, and I keep doing that stuff.
Curving road thing. That's what it's been for me, which is, so I feel like relatable in comparison to, I was born in a Christian household and I just knew that I was called to do this thing. And then I did this thing and honestly, in three years of interviewing people, no one has had that story. And yet I think what we do as humans is we look on the outside.
We look at the current location and position of that person, and we forget that there's history. Because we're comparing ourselves to where they are now versus where they were and the evolution state of their faith, of their career, of their fortune, of their prosperity of their marriage health of any component of health, really.
And it's a sad thing, but also why we're so called to share our testimony consistent. It's not a one and done, and I'm going to put that in a closet experience. It's let me continually tell you how God showed up for me and how you were able to recognize that your calling was in the midst of the journey that your process was in the midst of the walking it out.
And so for those who are here right now live, and those who will watch it later, which you can always watch the fit and faith podcast, because it's on YouTube and lots of different clips will clip this episode up and. Directly talk about different pieces of what mark is going to share. Additionally, on any of the other social platforms, but I want you to see the background of what's happening in Marcus's view.
He has, um, just a picture of, of thousands of people. And I, I've never had somebody utilize a backdrop like this. And so it's fun. There's always something new I should have known. Marcus is going to come out hot with a new idea. Um, but talk to us about this image and how it parallels to your past, but also to your future.
Wow. Good question. I love that because I can segue right into now. Um, the band we're very blessed. We've become extremely successful in the, the, uh, mega metropolis of Pensacola Florida. Now, now we do travel around the Southeast barring COVID and play, but we've really conquered Pensacola moving from a 400 seat theater to an 800 to a 1600 seat theater.
And now the 10,000 seat arena. This is at the Pensacola fairgrounds. This is about 3000. And we, uh, our, our shows run like a Swiss watch. Uh, they're very technical, uh, there, whatever band we're playing, let's say I'm singing in WhatsApp. Lynn will. Robert plant is behind me on a giant screen and his mouth is moving as if he say it's sinked up to when I'm singing well at this show here where we're having technical difficulty.
And it lasted about 15 minutes and they kicked me out there and said, Hey, you've been doing this speaking thing you were doing. So get up there and entertain the crowd for 15 minutes while we work this out and I'll move. So you can see me. Entertaining 3000 people. So that's technically my first speaking engagement there, Tamra, it's a huge check box right there.
And most people don't get to say that their first speaking engagement was in front of 3000 people. That is for sure. It's usually three, those two. I feel like God is already in position. Right? Like he was like, let me give you something. And a question. I asked Marcus offline and I want everyone to hear your response was, were you nervous?
Like where was your adrenaline going? What was your in. No, no, I wasn't nervous at all. I was already on stage. I've been singing for an hour. I've been blessed with not having performance, anxiety. Yeah. There's a little bit of adrenaline before you go on. Um, but yeah, I wasn't nervous at that. It was fun. You know, I, I, I told a couple of dad jokes, you know, that kind of thing.
So, you know, I'm sure you'll get to this, but I received a download in prayer to move from speaking, from singing to speaking. And so that's where this came in. Which is incredible. So talk to us about that, like transition, because you're still, obviously in the group and the ensemble, but there's been some massive moves that you've taken in the last few months even.
And so talk us through that. And from that, download from guide, um, recognizing the history that brought you to this place. I I'm curious like the messaging, what is the thing that's on your heart that you want to share when you're on stage? Well, first of all, I mean, my. You know, and, and you know that, and I will run around telling everybody that I love and everybody, I see, I at least try to tell 33 people a day that I loved them.
Strangers not, I mean, I, I tell everybody that, no, I love them, but strangers tell 33 strangers a day. Um, so I've been singing a long time. Um, I've also not taken care of my voice, you know, uh, do it, manipulating it to sound like other people. Um, and I can tell you journey blue, marvelous. Steve Perry. There's a reason why he can't sing.
There's a reason why journey's gone through three or four singers. It's very difficult. And if you're not trained properly, you'll shred your vocal chords. So I've been having trouble seeing for the past, I'd say five years, you know, ups and down. And like any good athlete, you have to exercise your voice, you know?
So if you don't sing all the time, if there's downtime between it, you kind of atrophy and you have to build it back up. Well, we were having a big show and I was in my living room and, uh, it was about four in the morning and it was in dark and I was sitting criss-cross applesauce on the floor and I was praying and I was like, you know, dear Lord, we had the show coming up, please, please heal my singing voice and Tamra.
It was just like a, it was an. That I heard. Well, yes, your, your gift is your voice, but who said that it has to be singing. I want you to transition from seeing to speaking on the stage and I'm like, what? Like, I have no desire to be a professional speaker, you know? Um, but that's what happened. And then being around people like you and all of our other people, all of our friends who do this on the regular, I kind of caught the bug.
I was like, Ooh, I want to do that. I can do that. Uh, so I've been practicing and I go live most every morning on Facebook at 5:30 AM. Uh, and I, first thing I say on cameras, I love you. I truly, and honestly love you truly. And sincerely love you. And I do that because there's so many people out there who don't get told that.
And so I've transitioned from singing on stage to speaking on stage, but to answer your question, my vibe that I want to. For people to pick up is that it's love. I love doing what I'm doing. I love everybody in the band. We're so tight. We're so close. We don't argue about anything real. I mean, knock on wood.
We don't argue. And so I think that, I know that transfers from the stage to the audience and that has gone out to where the audience loves us. And then after the show we go down and we talk to everybody and stay there till the last person leaves. And they just say, you guys are the coolest rock stars.
Then once again, I look around. What rockstar are you talking about? You know, so that's, that's where we are right now in the. I think it's incredible. I think there's a couple of things that you're saying that I think are really big takeaways for people is one, the fact that you were in a quiet place when you heard from God that, that you were in prayer towards something that you wanted.
Right. It's we so often we want things so eagerly, we yearn for them, and yet God has something else in plan for. And you were quiet enough to hear that. And then the very next piece to that, which I am so passionate about is the activation is the, I hear from God and now I moved towards him in this calling.
And you've done that so beautifully, even in the, in the midst of still having struggle, even in the midst of still recognizing. Um, that we have limiting beliefs. We still have things of the flesh that we have to get rid of in order to be the best version of ourselves in order for God to position us on the platform that he promised.
And I just, I've honored you since day. One of being vulnerable in all of those spaces. Um, the first time that I got to. He just stood up in the midst of breakfast with champions consortium, and, and you were so bold and sharing, this is what I want to do. And you did it so eloquently. And then I got to hear you on all of the forms of, of, uh, of podcasting, clubhouse, Facebook going live with you and you truly are a natural.
And I know, and since that love that you have so deeply and understanding that it's not just a love message of lemmings. I feel good, but it's really being a conduit of the love that God has given you and showcased in your life. And that is ultimately glorifying God, which is going to just continue to multiply the people that are listening.
Amen. Yeah. A lot of times when I do, you know, walk in the mall or the grocery store and I walk up to somebody and I say, Hey, guess what? And I said, what now? And then I asked them, has anybody told you that they loved you yet today? And 90% of the people will say. And then I say, well, Hey, guess what? I love you.
And I looked them in the eye and I tell them a lot of people start crying and then many, many people Tamar will tell me, I don't feel like that's you telling me? I feel like that's God tell me. Wow, that's it. Because that was the download. I didn't come up with this. Now I've been saying, Hey, guess what? I love you for 22 years because my oldest son is 20.
And when the kids are in the car, I would always turn around and say, Hey guys, guess what? I love you. Right. So that's where that came from. But in those downloads of prayer and meditation and getting quiet so that I can receive, and I always do it from here. I don't know why, but it seems like God's downloads.
It's this, it's this thing right here. Yeah. Uh, but it, it, it was, it's a mission and, and you, you say, uh, you know, I took action. Well, I'm not so arrogant and I'm not so. To deny what God is telling me now, do I doubt it? Yeah. Is that my mind? Right? Is that me? Okay? No, it's key. It's it's so prevalent. You know, it's so prevalent that I know that it's God speaking to me and a real quick example was somebody recently asked me for money and I was like, yeah, I don't know about that.
And then my dear sister share Dela Cruz who was on here, said pray about it and share, I go, dear Lord. Yes, give him the money. And it was like, I mean, I didn't even get the prayer. Right. And I did it right. And so, as long as we're quiet and we're receptive and open, and it's not easy to get there, I don't want anybody to think that this is something easy, it's easier said than done, but once it hits you and you know it and you feel it, I feel like it's easier to get to that.
Yeah, I, I, a thousand percent agree. It's like you start to understand his voice and people. And we've talked about this before on the show in past episodes, is this understanding of like, well, how do you hear from God? And everybody's methodology, no different than creating a business plan is different.
And the way that God speaks to you and how he speaks to you and when and where and whatever he needs to do to speak to you, he will, I love that. Like you can listen. Song, and you can hear God speak to you. You can open the word of God. You can open a regular book and God will speak to you. Someone will come up to you.
That's a stranger, like you've done to so many people and they, he will speak to you. It's a matter of our eyes being open in our spirit, being open to receive it in that way. And it's been amazing to me that you have been so. Just surrendered is ultimately I think the word to be able to do that. It's not something that is, um, done easily.
It, it really is a maturity aspect. And that was actually a word I had said over my year, a couple of years ago, was this word of maturity. It was my 20, 20 to 2021. Cause I do it over my birth year. And, um, that weekend, the weekend that I had secure that this was the word that I heard from God that this is what he's yearning for me to do.
And this was maturity in my faith maturity, my relationships maturity as a mother maturity, as a wife maturity, as a speaker maturity, as a business, as an entrepreneur, all these different pieces, maturity as a leader towards my team, uh, that weekend, I heard the word maturity through the. Two different pastors and within the Bible context of what I was reading and it was a study I was reading, I think I was like in chapter seven or something I'd been in the study.
I open it and the whole chapter was about maturity. And so I was open to receiving that message because I had heard from him once and I knew and knew and knew the knowing that you know, that you know, that he has said something to you. And now he's just sealing it day after day by the people who you're serving.
Amen. You know, and that's something that you said it really struck a chord with me because I've been running, uh, at the beginning of the year, you know, I'm, I'm not a runner. I don't enjoy running. I don't like it, but I know I need to, because I'm 49 and I got a seven year old and two year old and I need to make it to 99.
So I was running the other day, I guess it was the second. And I was listening to Matthew McConaughey, Greenlight. You know, as I'm running and somehow, you know, I thought my word was disciplined for the year. Maybe it is. But as I was running something in that story, all of a sudden, God said, no, I'm in your word.
This year is served. And it hit me like a ton of bricks. And so, okay. All right. And so I'm still waiting on. I can serve other than telling people that I love them. I'm waiting for that download. Uh, so it's I like it. How you said that, how it just comes out. You know, we don't choose our own words. Some people do, but, um, but my word is downloaded by God.
Yeah. And, and I think that it'd be really interesting to have a conversation with the author of that book. Dan Britton. I actually got to talk to him on breakfast with champions a few months back. And, uh, everyone was talking about this concept and where he gathered it from. And it's been, you know, sealed for the last 20 years.
And it's a practice that tens of thousands, probably millions at this point have practiced. And I had an opportunity to share with him that I did this, that I did it over my birth year rather than the annual year. And he said in 20 years, I've never heard anybody do it that way. Wow. I think for me in my conversation with the Lord and just the reflection point of when you, that birthday, that change that evolution, uh, that is so pivotal to you uniquely and not society at large.
Uh, God really did. Revealed himself to me the first time that I did it, which was about five years ago. And I'm, I'm so grateful for everywhere that I had. I can remember every word and I can also remember how God showed up through that word throughout the year, which was not always how I wanted him to.
It was not always the expectation that I had. God had different plans. He always does. Um, but let's shift this into something more and this is something more, I think is really valuable because of that concept of love because of you being a spreader of love. Um, and. You as a father, right? Like you're a dedicated husband, you're a father of five children and a performer.
And I want to talk through, as you lean into this next part of life, how do you steward the love for your children associated to things like music associated to pop culture or culture as a whole, knowing that there are broken pieces to that. And yet there has got to be that solid foundation. Well, that's a, that's a great question.
Well, first of all, my kids know that I love them above everything, you know, and my boys are older. I have, uh, my boys are 22, 18 and 17, and we're in that phase. Right. Where, you know, dad's probably not cool. Uh, dad can go, you know, so I don't have, uh, the relationship I would like to, like, all of us would desire to with our older kids, because they're going through the changes and the transformations.
But they know I love them. Uh, you know, and I, and I do think we all do feel, we go through these things, you know, we go through our challenges and all those winding roads that we go through. And for my boys right now, I'm, I'm letting them find their way. And then inputting what's going on with me in my life right now and how my life has changed.
I was at lunch with my son Asher a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, look at me. Look at what's happening, you know, so I'm able to use the, myself, my experiences, my example to teach them with my girls are seven and two. And they know that I adore them. You know, uh, I call Morgan my precious and I call a may my sweet love and that's their names.
Right. And they know that and they see me. They see me in mom. They see my wife, Laura on stage. Cause my wife, Laura plays violin and white tie rock ensemble. They see us on stage, but then they also see us go to church and they also see us on stage at church. And they also see us randomly walk up to people and tell them that you love them, you know?
And so I believe that example. Well, you know, my actions being the example is the way to steward the love of God and show them other than the way I was brought up being forced to go to the Baptist church. And we all have those stories, you know, where you didn't want to go do it. And then, uh, you know, I had the weird thing happened where, uh, I would be playing video games as a teenager and they w the church would show up and kidnap me and take me off.
Th that's what they called it. Take me off the witness to me. Although I've heard a story quite like that. Brutal, you know, not something you want to go through. So I feel like on a witness level, uh, my actions are my witness. My, you know, not my words. I mean, I love you. Yes. But my actions, how I live my life as my witness.
And a quick example, I'll give you is I was going into the clubs. And there was the megaphone preachers outside the clubs, screaming at us, you know, and shoving, attract in my face and saying, you know, you're, you're sending you're going in there. And I was like, bro, I'm a Christian. How do you know that? I'm not going to witness to somebody in here and saved their life.
And we had this debate. It got into like a heated debate where an elderly friend of mine and he's not elderly, but he got old enough to be my father who was playing in my band, really got in their face and said, we're going into the mouth of the lion. We're going into the lines. And we are saving souls through our music and people don't know.
I mean, I'm playing original music. I have a song that I was playing. People don't know it's called savior. People don't know that it's about Jesus. Uh, cause I don't need to tell them those who get it, get it right. God will tell those people. And so by, by being the way that God intends us to be an acting the way he intended us to be, that's my witness.
And that's how I can show my kids that God has love let's through my actions rather than forcing them to read something or forcing them to go to church or forcing it. You know, we all know that. You know, round peg doesn't go in the square hole. Or however, the saying is, so we can't force that through. We can't shove a basketball through the eye of a needle.
It has to be loving, just like God's love is for me. I think it's so powerful because it's, it's different. And I don't know that, you know, that it's different. Um, and it seems pretty simple. Um, but it's that component that it's, you know, people say that actions speak louder than words, but words are also important.
And I love that you parallel both of them. And also the knowing that like you are going into these dark places to be the light and the light overshadows the dark every single time. And oftentimes. Culture or I should say religion in culture has blanketed the idea that we have to stay in in church, quote, unquote, whatever that looks like to you in order to have a sanctified righteous.
And yet we are called into dark places. Jesus never went and hung out at the temple other than when he was little and he was in training or he went to go throw over the tables. He hung out in with the, with the abandoned. He held, he hung out with the dirty and the lame and the people who were called all of the nasty names that you would think to call someone.
He was able to be the representation of light. And so understanding that you train them up in the way that it should go and they will not depart from it. And knowing that this is biblically sound, but also what did Jesus do? And so walking that out and recognizing that even as pastors, even as preachers, even as teachers and any other gifting that you might stand within.
You are uniquely called into a space. And so if you feel called into that arena, we have to show up, we have to be there in entirety and not let the religious shun us from our calling. And that is an area I think that I'm really passionate about. I know that I'm passionate about, but I think more people need to hear about when it comes.
Not only to the music and arts, which is your realm of influence, but also to economy and business, which is an area that I'm really passionate about. People think that making money, doing things that are connected to the kingdom are, is bad, right. Or that it's greedy, or that there's a component of shame associated to it because you're sharing the word of God.
You cannot charge money for. It depends on the context. Right. And just like this, it depends on the context. I'm going into a bar. Yes. But I'm not going into a bar to get obliterated. I'm going into a bar to stand righteously and to be able to showcase that I can have fun. I can be creative. I can still rock out.
And so can they, but in a healthy holistic. Amen. Yeah. The funny thing about that bar too, is when you, when we went in there, there was literally a priest with his collar on, at the bar, at the bar, you know, and, and he was, he's known all over town for going into the lion's den, if you will. Um, so yeah. Oh, th the thing that you're talking about money, it really struck a chord with me on that.
Um, people get the line wrong. They say money is the root of all evil. That's not the line. The line is the love of money is the root of all evil. And we talk about it and I hear you guys talk about it more in, in breakfast with champions in the groups that we are in that if you have empty pockets, you can't help anybody.
I love that so much. So, I mean, there's nothing wrong with having massive abundance, as long as you're sharing it, you know, and I have a quote, I don't know of one happy, successful person that doesn't have God in their life and the caveats. Because you can be a mobster or you can be a, you know, whatever, bad thing, pimp, whatever you want to say and have massive amounts of money.
And those people probably keep it to themselves. They don't share it with anybody, you know, and a lot of musicians do that. A lot of band leaders do that. I've known a lot of famous band leaders around that. I won't name that go through musicians like water because they're keeping it all to themselves.
It's okay to have money as long as you're sharing it and taking care of other people who are less. Brother. Yeah, so, so good. I think one of the biggest things that I literally, I was doing my Peloton preaching this morning, I'm going to make that a regular thing here in the new year. Um, and I literally was utilizing this exact verse, the love of money, the greed concept, the prosperity is a promise that abundance is a promise that God wants.
See you wealthy, but wealthy. Isn't always just money, but it is a valuable resource to how the world operates. And therefore we as kingdom movers and shakers need it in order to create and shift change. Now it's not the only need, right? It's the need of love. It's the need of joy. And you spoke to that concept of happiness and interestingly and not.
So interestingly arc, or is that a Gary? You, my husband sent me. Uh, a TEDx talk this morning, all around happiness and how it's a self-generated concept. And I was, I was listening to the entire TEDx. One and I was looking at from a speaker's lens, right? I'm like, I really love her inflection. I really loved her tonality.
I really loved her accent and the way she kept paced and how she was sharing. And, and yet I was receiving the concept of what she was saying. And it had a lot of, uh, depth in a research, very much research based in psychological base. And she gave an example of people listening to the happiness factor within them, based on somebody else directing.
How to be happy. And yet at the root of it, it's really something that's self-generated. So I asked Gary afterwards, when we were talking on the phone, I'm like, he was already off to work at this point. And I'm like, they've what struck a chord with you? And I told them all the speaker things and he's like, yeah, yeah, I loved all of that.
And one of the things that she said in it was that. Not positive mindsets, but basically we're living in a culture of negativity that we have a negative mindset towards everything because it's, what's displayed to us, whether it's in religion, whether it's in music, whether it's in the media, all of these things are happening towards us.
And it's what we now have a negative bias was the word. In all that we do yet, if happiness and I love one of our listeners live is saying don't confuse happiness with joy. That's exactly where I'm going is that happiness is fleeting and joy is the truth. It's like coming from the belly, right? It's like that laugh.
It's that? The spirit, it's the wealth factor that I think, and I've utilized in my business is the knowing that this is the magnetism quality. This is what people see. And they recognize that she's not just happy. Cause I lived a pretty happy childhood. I was always smiling. People always, you know, similar to you.
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And so talk to me through, because I know that you're also shifting into this realm of coaching and there are so many people, the fit and faith podcast is for founders, innovators, and trailblazers, and so much of our community, our coaches. And so talk to us through how you've utilized your lifetime at testimony and shown up and kind of now formulated this ability to coach and teach and.
Yeah. It's, it's very similar to my answer with the kids. It it's telling people about my experiences, the good, the bad, the ugly, right. Um, here's the stuff that I've done that I feel like you can do that will help your life. Here's the stuff that I did that I'm telling you make every effort to not do, you know, um, it's it's from my experiences.
Um, and, and the coaching thing. Wasn't something that I desired. You know, that was the, that was another download. And I didn't know how I was going to do it. I have a podcast, the same thing that was from the download, but on the coaching space, you know, I have the, Hey guess what? I love your group in Facebook.
Right. And there's a lot of people that, that reach out that are single females. And they want to talk to me, you know, and, and I don't know what the motives are, but we are out speaking with our dear brother, Glen Lundy. And I was like, you know, I, I had this thing to coach and he said, what's your avatar?
And I said, right now it's females my age. He said, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Right. Don't do a one-on-one in that. Make sure you do a group coaching. Um, and so I kind of put that on the back burner Tamra and, and I let it go. But then all of a sudden, our mutual friend shared DeLaCruz reaches. And we had talked.
We, you know, we, we had known each other through clubhouse and, uh, Instagram and things like that, but we met in person at grow your business for God's sake. Right. And, and the three of us share Laura, my wife, Laura, and I, we hit it off, you know, very similar, uh, both Sharon, my wife, Laura, our Filipino descent, you know, they're beautiful Filipinos.
And we talked about these things, um, and she said, oh, well, you know, I had the same issue with men, you know, asking me to, to coach one-on-one. And it was very interesting. It was very similar. And then all of a sudden, a couple of weeks before the new year, she texted me and she said, how would you feel about partnering with me and do a two on one male and female homeless?
Approach to coaching. And I was like, that's it. Thank you God. Oh, brilliant. It's so brilliant. Eight. So a representative of the heart of the father it's representative of the covenant love of marriage, right? Like protecting. Piece for you and your wife protecting that for share as she is navigating that new realm of relationship.
Um, I love, and this is something that's really powerful for people to understand. Uh, and something I've been really researching more is understanding the character of God and understanding the power of women and the power of men, the power of femininity and. Alinity and that if you, as a woman have boundaries, which I do, especially with the history that my husband and I have gone through, I have very safe boundaries in that regard.
But if I was not allowed to have mentors or coaches or clients, or even, um, you know, somebody who's on the same playing field as me, if I wasn't allowed to have. Skill and energy in that regard, I would be blocking off an entire voice of God that I think I need. Um, and, and it's been so empowering to me to have a male coach and all of these things, but it was definitely something that, that word maturity maturity took me in order to do.
But you guys are living. Setting it up so that the person who comes to you is getting this whole well-rounded experience of, of life, of, of life, to the full. And that is the representation of God. It's so good. And chair's on here. She's of course I like praise God. It's such an honor. Like it's so good. So have you guys actually started that program yet?
I know it was kind of in launch phase. Have you already acquired some. Uh, we have not acquired any clients. We've have had, um, a bunch of meetings. Um, we, you know, we did it quickly, you know, when she mentioned it, uh, in the middle of December, she said, when do you want to go live? I was like, let's go, let's launch it December 13th.
Let's go live December 21st. So we worked our tails. Um, and to the point of exhaustion, you know, she worked on the website, I got that set up, it's there, everything's going. Um, and then after that we had a couple of meetings and I, then the holidays came, you know, we started getting involved in that, but I do feel like we needed a rest.
Um, but we're going full force into it. We've, I've gone into a bunch of marketing aspects. So the answer, you know, we don't have any clients yet, but it just. I mean it's brand new. Uh, and the thing that I love about it is that, you know, I can be tough. I have a high pain tolerance, you know, I can do all this things, but I also have that feminine energy to where, you know, I cry when I'm talking about my wife and I'll do it now because I love her so much.
Right. And then I can barely mention it without, you know, doing it on my daughters, you know, so I have. Uh, touchy-feely aspect to me that loves side, that feminine aspect to it and share being a female obviously brings that. But if you look at her when she works, She's tough, man. She's got that thing. Like I can't do that stuff.
I will be able to right now, right now, I'm not able to do that. I don't like I'm trying not to use the word. Try and can't and no, I'm, I'm working on my vernacular. It's very important. Pick it up if you're listening. He's trying not, no, he is not. Trying can't well, shouldn't never, right. Like don't say those things, right.
Exactly. And I am, and we call it alignment. Coach. There's so many life coaches out there, but, but we called it alignment coach because we're aligned, you know, our masculine and feminine individually have aligned together. And I truly believe that we're going to. Thousands, if not millions of people with this coaching, uh, venture that we started because of our experiences, the things that we've gone through, but also because everybody, and I like to use the word holistic, it's just a holistic approach.
They get EV like you say, every piece of the. All of it all at once. And so, uh, we, if I may, we call it MC coaching. Um, and that's for, and we told you about this, but initially, you know, uh, she came up with a MC coaching Marcus and share, and then we said, wow, the MC it's, it's a mission of Christ, you know, and God is love.
And our mission is. And our mission is to help people. And that's part of the serving thing that I'm being called to do. And all of this stuff is now happening to me, Tamra, because you mentioned the surrender and we could go on and on and on the things that are happening to me are blowing my mind because it, people will use the word coincidence in that coincidence.
It's not. It, this has God's plan that I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know the how, but you and Gary and Anthony Hart and all of our brothers and sisters taught me, bro. It's not about the, how it's about giving up and letting God take over. You know, and Carrie Underwood has that song. Jesus take the wheel, you know, uh, which, by the way, I sat in the green room with her for hours, but
I won't get into it, but I was a, I won an American idol singing contest at Disney. Um, and, and I would have been able to go on the real show, but I was too old at the time, but I sat in a green room with just Carrie and I, uh, because, uh,
That's the thing it's, it's surrender, you know, and I know I'm going off track and I can do that. Oh no, you're completely not. And, and as you're talking, it's actually bringing us back full circle to the prioritization of love, which is exactly how we started this. And it's how I started my morning. And just letting people know that it's not about the money.
It's about the prioritization of God and the money flows from that. Right. If prioritization and God is love and love is the end all be all, every other piece of the puzzle, which is the, how that we're so fixated on it comes organically. It comes because it's already a part of the plan he's already positioned you for that.
But now with this new alignment, with this fresh wholeness from this new factor was share, I just feel like the flood gates in. To the representation of the, to the attire, character of God being represented in how your guys coaching is going to just be massive. And you have this prophetic picture behind you, of these thousands of people.
Not probably recognizing that it's parallel, not just to the speaking, but to the influence and the impact. And to know that if there was just one person sitting in the chair behind you, that you're actually accessing. Thousands and millions and nations. And that's the most important thing is to recognize that even little moments like this, where maybe one person listens to this, which we know is already more than that, because we've had so many on the life, but it's this knowing even that has power, even that has.
And so to show up for the one with the same energy that you showed up for the thousands and the millions and the nations, um, prioritizing love first, I mean, really Marcus, your, your testimony is one that we all need to follow suit to. Um, and ultimately that's following suit to the God that's within you.
Amen. Well, in may I talk about, I skipped a little bit a piece, man. I talk about how I got here. Okay. So, you know, COVID is the great reason. You know, we had in, by the way, I apologize. I don't have my, I messed up on not having my fit and faith
going. And I didn't use that. You know what Laura has both of them in our car, but, you know, as horrible in is. You know, terrifying and awful as COVID has been through people, getting sick and losing loved ones and all that. Those of us who were blessed enough to come through it without, you know, passing.
Um, it's a great reset. The people started figuring out wow things. Aren't really the way we thought they were. You know, that's not reality. And I've been, uh, I've always been in the music business. You know, I used to build Gibson guitars in Nashville. I used to intern at Warner brothers, a recording studio in Nashville.
And that just means I make an excellent cup of coffee and clean toilets really well. Yeah, I did that for a lot. Saw a bunch of Grammy award-winning records get recorded, and then I started performing. And so, uh, I ran the other music sort of brick and mortar music stores. Well, I had been, uh, with a, uh, Uh, pro audio, video and lighting integrator for nearly 15.
And I was always the freak in the room. I say that a lot. I was always the freak in the room. When I got hired, I had really long hair. I had a big brown beard. Uh, you know, I have tattoos, uh, you know, can you please show me what it is at some point? Yeah, I have tons of them. You know, when I look in the mirror, I'm like, oh, this is not
a long hair. Let's see. Uh, so, um, you know, I, I was the freak in the room. But I, but I was successful. I was always the top salesman. I ended up being a national sales manager and running a successful team for a long time, but I never felt valued. I never felt appreciated. And that's no dig on anybody. It's just my feelings.
And so I've been praying for a long time, like a long time years, maybe even 10 years. Dear Lord, please get me out of this. Like show me the way. Right. And we all, when we pray, we want, uh, just add water, right? We want instant grits, instant pudding, whatever it is. And so it may, maybe I wasn't listening. Ma maybe I wasn't in that place to hear what God wanted me to do, but it took all these years.
And all of a sudden I was in a role that I loved, which was business development. And it was like one-on-one and I'm a people guy, you know, it's cliche, but I'm a people person. Um, and all of a sudden I got moved. With with no, um, no reasoning. Nobody could tell me why they, they don't, I don't know why we did this.
Marcus. I got moved into a project manager role, which is a construction role. I've never been in the construction business in my life. And all of a sudden I was a budget, 1% miserable. And I know now that that was God giving me a boot in the past. You've been holding onto this for so long Marcus you've been comfortable for so long now I'm making you so uncomfortable that it got to the point share.
I mean, uh, I said chair, uh, Tamra. Sorry about that. I got to the point where it was just, I needed to go, but I didn't know how, and I didn't know why. And so all of a sudden, we're at Grove for grow your business for God. And our brother, Jonathan says something to me, he prophetize his prophesizes to me. And I'm like, wow, that's great.
And all of a sudden Cher and I are on a zoom and somebody else prophesies to me. And that was the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. And that Wednesday, that whole week I'd taken vacation time. And, but everybody was calling me from work. There was problems with all these issues. And I got into an argument with my boss that Wednesday, and I was like, I'm so miserable.
And then I got that prophesizing that Wednesday night. And when I got that, I was like, okay, I hear you. God, I hear you, but I don't have a parachute. I don't have savings. I don't have insurance. And, and it was like, he was screaming at me. You don't need that son. You don't need that stuff. I got you. So I jumped out of the airplane at 30,000 feet without a parachute and the Monday coming back from Thanksgiving.
Uh, and it couldn't have gone more appropriately. It couldn't have been more. I went in my office and it took me an hour to pack up my office. And nobody came in. Nobody said, what are you doing? Nobody said anything about it. And so I went in to look around for all the executives that I needed to tell to quit.
And they were nowhere to be found, but their cars were in the parking lot. They were there, but I couldn't find them. I walk the whole building. And so I finally, I was like, I'm not going to stick around and look for somebody to it. And I called my, my direct supervisor and he said, I'm in a meeting, I'll have to call you later.
And they didn't get in touch with me until 2:00 PM and I'm trying not to cough. And if I do, I'll mute myself out. Uh, and then, so when, when he called, I was like, you know, um, I'm coming up on my 15th season here and you know, how much I like baseball and I'm an athlete and all those things. And it comes to the point where at a time where every athlete knows that his body is worn out and that he's tired and it's time for him to hang up.
And I'm hanging up my cleats today and he said, what? You're quitting, I'm going. I said, I'm not quitting anything. I'm hanging up my cleats. I'm moving on to what God has called me to do. And that's to love others. And I didn't know what that meant Tamra. And now all of a sudden you have coaching. So I wanted to give that we don't have a lot of time.
I'm glad that you did though. I mean that literally just ties all of this up. Is it goes back to what I said, um, with what you were talking about at the beginning, it really is parallel to action or in a quiet place you heard from God you heard clearly, and then you acted thereafter without. Knowing the how without necessarily saying that all of the puzzle pieces are aligned.
You knew the call, you knew the mission was to love others. And then to now see puzzle pieces coming together. And I think there'll be more puzzle pieces that are going to be gifted to you. We're going to have a new vision, right. And something new. That's going to evolve from it. But what a powerful. The story.
I feel like it's a very, for now story. I think there are a lot of people because of COVID and even because of other things that are going on in culture, whether it's politically or media driven that people, instead of it being this concept of the great resignation, which has been really around the world, it's really this great reset.
What if it was not about the quitting, but more about the reset. It's like pressing that, that reset button to say, I'm going to start a new, but I'm going to utilize everything that I've had up until this point. W what's to come. Uh, and I think that there's so much power to that. And as you were talking about a couple of the things that you said you didn't have, you weren't equipped with, and you talked about insurance.
I want to encourage people as entrepreneurs. We did not have health insurance for a while, and we go through ebbs and flows where we have it and we don't have it. We talk about spending, you know, 24,000. Family annually to have insurance when we're like, eh, we're good. We prioritize our health in so many other ways that our insurance is just kind of void.
In that regard, we have a very nominal Christian based healthcare so that we pour into a pot. And if something drastic was to happen, the Christian community would come to the front to take care of those bills. And that's really cool. I'll tell you about it, but the point of me sharing this was, as you were saying that I don't have insurance.
What if we were brave enough and bold enough to say that God is our. Your insurance plan is him. And that is, that was what came to me. And I was like, oh, come on, Jesus. I never thought of it like that. And so I just, now
it's actually as entrepreneurs, right? We need that. Oh, man. Mark is, I can keep talking to you all day. I actually am jumping onto a coaching client call such. I'm so excited about I'm going to encourage her with these same words that God is our insurance plan. That love above all. It should be the priority and all of the other pieces to the puzzle.
God already. Plans. It's just a matter of us recognizing and positioning them and Marcus, you are in position, my friends, and I'm so excited to see what God has, uh, coming up for you. All the people who are alive are like, wow, that is our insurance. That's awesome.
Yeah, that's what I did. It's I call it jumping out of the airplane at 30,000 feet without a parachute is so rendering to God. Don't worry about the, how just do it because when you do it, I could go through a whole list and I know a wreck, but wrapping up the fees that have happened to me this week, you know, I'm going on TV today after you, that I just found out about two, two days ago.
There's these things that are happening to me that are falling in my lap. They're falling in my lap because of. It's so good and your eyes are open to it. Cause if you were at work right now at 10 53, you wouldn't have the eyes to even be able to see and the opportunities would any of them it'll be there because you wouldn't be available.
Surrendering is becoming. Yeah, become available to what God has for you and see what happens. It will multiply the desires of your heart in so many beautiful ways. And I, and I will talk to say the caveat that we're not giving financial advice, or we're not telling you to quit your job without savings or anything, just because I did it.
I'm not telling you to do it. I'm just telling you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Agreed. And, and I'm excited for your story to continue to evolve and for me to be a part of it. So selfishly of excited about that connection. So good. So good. You guys, we love you actually. We love you. All right. Y'all have a blessed day.
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