• Tamra Andress

Renew You: A Cancer Survivorโ€˜s Mission with Andy Ptacek

Have you ever wanted to be someone new? Andy was able to do this under very difficult circumstances when she was diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor. She had to work through anxiety, patience, and healing to find herself again, and her experiences have led her to help others stop living a life of stagnancy to living a life full of alignment in Christ.

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About Andy:

Andy is a brain cancer warrior, wife, mom of two boys, best selling author, entrepreneur of 13+ years, national speaker, community builder, experience creator, and Certified Christian Life Coach helping women break free from autopilot so they can confidently step into a purposeful, God-aligned life!

Where to Find Andy:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/andythenewgirl/

Freebie: https://andythenewgirl.com/resources/mind-body-spirit/

Renew You Program: https://andythenewgirl.com/renew-you/

Personal Coaching: https://andythenewgirl.com/personal-coaching/

Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1733325514/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_PD532EPMMCSCYY5G1FQ9

Show Notes: Renew You with Andy Ptacek

Have you ever just wanted to wake up and perhaps be somebody new? Well today's guests. Andy is able to do that and she was able to do so under really difficult circumstances. She had what they told her was an inoperable brain tumor and she had cancer. And yet. One day she woke up and she talks all about the process of evolving into this new version of self.

The clarity that was brought the present moment that was established working through anxiety and therapy and patients, right in the process of getting back on her feet and establishing a new sense of self. But alignment is a part of it. Coaching is a part of it. Obstacles as you can hear is surely. And she truly desires for every single person she comes into contact with to not only hear her story, that's sure a component of it, but to hear the God was in her story.

It's why she wrote a book. It's why she's a national speaker. It's why she's a best-selling author and life coach to Christian women who are looking to. I say yes, and stop living a life on autopilot. And instead living a life confident and purposeful and God aligned. And that's who she is. It literally seeps out of her.

So I know you're going to love this segment. Check out Andy, the new girl on all different social media platforms. Jane's out on Instagram most just like me. So we would love it. If you share this specific episode, tag us, tag her Andy, the new girl and me Tamra and dress or the fit and faith podcast. So that way we can share it as well.

And review for today's show. I'm going to be talking about the review workers on the show live. And so you could hear your name dropped and I would be honored to just share your perspective. And so I thank you in advance for doing that, subscribe to the show, do all the stars, you know how it goes. I appreciate you.

And I know Andy does too. We can't wait for you to tune in.

Welcome to the fit and faith podcast. It is an acronym representing founders, innovators, and trailblazers who are looking to live a life wholly fully, authentically, and truly fit a space for us to connect on the raw real stories of mind, body, and soul alignment of entrepreneurs in kingdom leaders. I'm your host, Tamra and dress.

And this podcast, isn't like the cookie cutter interview experience. I've been coined the entrepreneurial rabbi. And so we do go there unscripted, no matter how far wide, deep or high there is. My desire is to see people rise from the inside, out, into their greatest calling, by sharing their truest stories.

And tips as a purpose activator and brand builder. I believe our successes and failures are derived from who and whose we are not what we do, but strategy and vision are equally as important to the mission. So let's cut to the chase together and get fit in faith.

Are you guys, it doesn't feel like a crazy sound going on. Yeah, a little bit, but maybe, I don't know. I think it might be as because of the sound should be taker. Can you hear me okay. I can hear you. Okay. Yeah. I feel like they can still hear. Can you hear? Can you guys hear okay if you're listening on Instagram?

Like if we have our headphones out, I don't know. I mean their health, their health let's do it. Okay. Gotcha. Love it so much. Welcome to the Ben bay podcast. We are so excited to be with you today. We're trying something new. Yes. They can hear us. I found out the issue. So every other time that I've done this, I've gone live on Facebook, LinkedIn, and YouTube, which we are currently doing.

And then we've gone live on Instagram, but yeah. Sound is not attached to an earbud. It's like double echo and nobody can understand what you're saying. So. We're here and welcome. I'm excited to introduce you. My dear friend, Andy, you guys. She and I got connected over the course of this year and it's been such a blessing to my own life.

Um, I had an opportunity to coach her and it was less about the coaching and more about the intimacy that occurred. The season of just being able to be real and raw and vulnerable and understanding that like entrepreneurship is hard. We were literally just talking about it before we got on here. Um, but we're connected, not just because of our similar spirits, but because of the spirit that lives within us and what God has.

Just desperately wanted to do and shown his glory and through our lives. And so I'm excited for Andy to share what that is in her life and how it, um, was catapulted through a lot of different journeys, right? Like she's a mama, just like I am, she's a life just like I am. She's not intrepreneur sure, but she's gone through a different perspective of life than I have, um, with a backstory that you have to stay tuned to hear about that.

Andy, I am grateful to have you and grateful to know you. Thanks for being. Thank you. I'm grateful. Likewise, this is such a treat. Thank you. You're so welcome. So we already have some listeners on live and they're saying sound is awesome. So we're going to jump in to the sound of heaven for a bit. So I hope you guys are ready to stay tuned for that.

And Andy, I love that these conversations are so loosely planned because I feel like we do allow the holy spirit to just go with where he wants us to go and follow in those footsteps. And so I want you to share your story and I know you've done this a thousand times are now. Speaker, you know, you've been on stages everywhere.

You also have, um, an incredible book. If you guys have not picked that up, all of the links are in the, in the bio, in the drop links here. We'll do that on Instagram momentarily. Um, but she is a life coach as well, and she serves people in such a beautiful way. So let's talk about the start, like what happened, where and why are you in this place?

Oh, my gosh, life is crazy. Like we were saying, um, you know, we can connect the dots looking backwards, but when we're in the moment, it's like, what are you doing, Lord? Where are you taking me? Why is this happening? Um, my story starts like, My, my, my, where I'm at now kind of blossomed from something that was a really hard thing.

And it really started out as, um, like a little, little health issue, a fib, right? So it's like, it's something that is treatable. Really pretty common. It's a family thing. Um, so I had this aphid and I got this ablasion and, you know, being, um, I think I was 32 at the time. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm an old lady now.

And I have all these health problems, but, um, it was actually just a little blip. So from that I had this ablasion and everything was going great. But I got this migraine after my surgery. And so they were like, oh, we better do some scans in case there was a clot that went to your brain causing this headache.

And I'm like, oh, like, like they're thinking I'm stroking out. And I was like, no, no, no. Like I can do all the things. I'm fine. Um, So that they, I let them do the CT anyways, cause this migraine was intense. And in fact, I was refusing it at first because my husband's a fireman and you just don't go to the hospital or get treated for like silly stuff.

Like you're fine. Yeah. So I went, um, and it turned out to be, they see something and they're like, we see something on your brain and they started treating me for a stroke, but I knew in my heart. That it wasn't that, that, that something was different. Something was wrong. So I left this hospital AMA against medical advice where they're trying to keep me, and I felt it in the pit of my stomach.

Like, this is not for you. This is not what you need to do. Uh, and so I really, they were like, no, no, no, you have to stay. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I don't. And I was never that feisty. And I was never that bold. I've always been like a people pleaser follow the rules, but the holy spirit was like, girl, get outta here.

Wow. I started taking off like all of this stuff that's attached to me and the nurses I'd running in with this clipboard to have me sign before leave. So she doesn't get in trouble and we go to. This other hospital that's known for brain, um, like different brain stuff. Right. And so we get there and they do some more tests and these tests are happening over like that night and into the next day and I'm feeling okay.

But, you know, we're just kind of curious, like why all of these tests what's going on. Um, and I remember. Sitting in this little hospital room and you guys, my family, if you have a family that's like in, on everything, that's my family. Like they throw up all of them for everything. So I have this tiny hospital room with like 10, at least 10 people in there.

Um, my stepdad had taken our kids home for a little, they were three and six at the time, um, for a little break and. Some doctors started walking in, like, not just one, but a team of doctors walked in our room and I was like, okay, this is probably big news. So, um, they had neurologist starts talking and she's saying all of these, like really big words.

I'm not familiar with what she's trying to tell me. I did hear that I didn't have a stroke. So. Good news

then. Um, but she said malignant and I was like, oh my gosh, like that's a cancer word. And I said, are you telling me I have brain cancer? And she just like, kind of stalled there. And she shook her head. And then the doctor behind her started crying. And I immediately thought of my kids three and six, and I said, am I going to live long enough to raise my kids?

And again, like nobody had anything to say. And the doctor who was crying was pretty much telling me that it wasn't a likely situation. And I later found out that, um, Tumor this cancerous brain tumor, um, was an operable when the neurosurgeon came in to see us next. And I remember just, uh, me and my husband, um, he was sitting behind me and I could feel the heat from him hearing all of this news.

Like I could feel it physically on my body. And I asked our family to give us the most. And we just kind of fell apart together. We, we cried, like it was just an accumulation of all of these emotions and feelings, and then finding this out, um, that just kind of bubbled up to the surface. And so we had to cry, but then it's like, we both kind of stopped at the same time and we're like, this isn't the end.

We're not accepting this. Um, and we just chose that we were going to do whatever we need to. We were going to fight. And, um, initially they were like, yeah, it's inoperable. So we're going to drill a hole in your school. We're going to take biopsies. We're gonna set you up for treatment, chemo, radiation, all this stuff.

And I was like, pause. Like this is a lot. And we actually had a family vacation scheduled. This was in the summertime. And I wanted to focus on having that moment with my family before the. Changed drastically. So we went to Disneyland as planned. It wasn't anywhere like my husband was not really looking forward to like the lines and like, you know, you know, then when you're a kid, but, um, it was crazy because when we got this news, Everything in life became a really clear and really good, really beautiful.

It was like, these moments are precious. And when we look at life through that lens, it's just like, the perspective is so different and so much more beautiful than if we were to look at it with like doom and gloom and like, who knows what's coming next. It's like, we don't know that. So we're just going to focus on what we do know and what we do have now.

So it was, it was a beautiful trip and what's one is when we were on that trip. Um, my mom had the wherewithal to get second opinions and I'm like, oh, live in the moment. No she's asking. And she got me in with. I got a neurosurgeon who specializes in difficult cancers, brain tumors. And he, um, looked at my scans and he looked, we had a conversation.

He called me, he like people come from all over the world to see him. He called me on my phone and said, I looked at your scans. And not only do I think it's operable, but I think I can take all of it. And so I was like, All in. He called and I got the calls on this vacation, on this trap of all of the pre-op stuff I had to do as soon as I got home.

But it was like divine intervention. I felt like everything that had led up to that moment was so perfectly orchestrated for me to even have this opportunity for someone to say, Nope, you can't have that. And then have someone show up who says, I can do this. It gave this sound the sense of hope, not just in that amazing surgeon.

But in what God had in store for this, I know I'll be transparent. I have not read the book. I don't know if any of this is in it, but I haven't heard this part of the story. And the last part that you just said makes me think so. Of the grace of God and his like monumental ability to change what the world says to be true.

Right. And we're given these diagnoses or we're given these news headlines, or we're given this fatal information consistently and it doesn't necessarily always have to do with health, but we seem to be able to relate to that a lot right now with the state of the. And then there's that, but God moment.

And so it just brings that to life that much more, and it's just incredible that you were positioned in the happiest place on earth to receive really incredible life altering news. And to step into that. And then simultaneously to know there was two things happening. One, you took a beat, right? You said holding.

Yeah, let me just take a beat with all of this information. Let me continue to do the thing that our family had intended to do. And in that time it gave way for your mom to be your advocate, which I'm a mom, you're a mom. We would totally be doing the exact same. Right. And at the time I was like, no, like mom, like doctors or doctors like this doctor said one thing, like, let me just, I'm done with hospitals.

I was just over that whole scene. Um, You know, moms are persistent and they're going to do it anyway, even if, and I can appreciate where she was coming from being a mom myself. And so, yeah, I obliged that and I remember, um, putting myself on the operating table when we got to the hospital that day, because they gave me something to kind of like sedate me back.

But I was like amped up. I was like, oh my gosh. So we get back there and I literally. All the people, all the tools, all the things. And I'm like, oh, this is real. And I'm getting on the table. And I'm like talking to all the people and they're like, why is she so awake? Like you guys, I have a three year old, a six year old, I have so much to live.

Please do take care of me, prayed for all of you on the way here. And you know, and they're like, okay, And so I remember laying down and they put the mask over me and they were like, okay, on countdown from 10, they were the sweetest people. And I started counting down and you know, you get to seven and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm still awake.

But then after that, it was like in like, Yeah. And then I remember waking up and I was in this post-op room and, um, I woke up alone, but there was like patients waking up around me with that curtains between us and, um, there was a nurse in it where we're all brains patients. So there was a nurse next to me who was trying to wake up her patient and she was being really loud, like trying to raise.

So I'm hearing all the commands she's giving him. And so I'm like doing all the things that she's telling him to do. And at that moment, my inner critic was like gone, but my inner cheerleader was like, oh my gosh, like, you're amazing. You can wiggle your toes. You can re I was like looking at a poster across the wall.

And like, I can read like, wow, everything. It was like, I was awakened to a new sense of self, like this realization that. Uh, on purpose and I was surprised I woke up, but I woke up on purpose and I felt like if God did this, then he's capable of so much. And I have purpose still. And there's still. So incredible.

And you're getting the praise, God comments and people on here, because it is it's, it's a miraculous story. And I think sometimes when people, um, share stories like this, there can be that sense of, of feeling where my story is. Not that great. I wake up every single day. Right. And it doesn't seem like there's that component of.

This, and then this, now I have a piece of my story. It's drastically different, but it's the knowing that some people don't have that I hear people say, I don't really have a story. I don't really have a testimony that, that there's witness to me sharing. Like I had a great childhood. I had good parents.

This is kind of where I am. I have the boy and the girl and all those things. So talk me through, because you were such an encourager of people through, how do you encourage people who don't feel equipped to share a story as magnificent as yours? And I say, magnificence, we all know that there is worthiness to every story, but what's your encouragement for those people listening, who are feeling.

So I feel like adversity is totally relative. It's totally relative to where we are in our lives and what we've been through. And, um, I'm really open about my past experiences too. Like I ha I was sexually abused as a child. I had come from a broken home, a poor family. Um, I, uh, The eighth, when I had that too, I thought that was like the end of my, I mean, like these things happen, but they refine us and they prepare us for the next thing.

And I just think it's such a great, um, way to look at things that when we are going through something hard, no matter how comparatively to other people, I mean, we look at the world right now and Christians are being persecuted with their whole. And you look at that faith and that's inspiring to me and I'm not in that situation.

And when I was in going through what I was going through, I was watching other people who learned how to be happy again and learn how to overcome after they had been through hard things. And they had a totally different story than mine. A guy I was really watching closely was a paraplegic who came back from the war and his wife had to take care of him.

And as a man, you know, with pride and all of that, and I'm, I have maybe a little more pride than I should have. You know, we kind of relate, you know, I needed help tying my shoes and cutting my food. And this was his life. Like I knew that I could come past that. Some of these. So I would look to other people persevering and that gave me hope.

And, and I think that that's good. That's, it's good that there's people that have had adversities beyond yours because then, you know, you can do it. And you know, that impossible is a total lie that everything is possible and that we're not statistics. We're not in a box. We don't have a labels because like we can rip all that off.

And our identity is in Christ and he paid the ultimate sacrifice for us and he's our healer and our Redeemer and all of these things. And so every day that we wake up, God says, I'm not done with you. No matter if you're in an adversity or things are going really great. Like you can use all of it, all of it for his.

Oh, my goodness. Okay. We're done just crazy awesome podcast. You are such a gift and it's so it's so necessary for that continued expansion, but we know that after those surgeries and in that process of healing, like a lot of other things were still taking place. Like you had a. That was operating. You had children that you wanted to pry fully take care of yourself.

Right. And so talk us through, like, what was that journey like on the other side? And you came to that clarity moment of everything he knew again. Um, and that's a part of your now brand. And so talk us through that transition. Well, it took time. It took time. I think, um, you know, I went through you're on this high, right?

You you're surviving you, you made it, you defeat some of these odds, but yet you're giving other odds. Like in this process, I was also told that, um, even with a full resection, I had one. Uh, three chance of surviving 10 years. And so I'm thinking like, God, you brought me through this and then now you might take it all away.

Like why I don't understand. And then someone told me, statistics are not a God thing. And I was like, that is so true. And like, we always like, think about where all the dots line up, but there's. And there's miracles. And so I'm like, why can't I be one of those? And I watched people walk ahead of me. And then I'm thinking of like, you know, all of these other things, but at the same time, like my body's reacting to this trauma, like I'm not sleeping, I'm having anxiety.

Um, like you said, I have a business, but at the same time, because it was my own business because you know, the beauty of being an entrepreneur is you can pivot whenever you need to. And I had business partner at the time who. Picked up the slack for me and our employees picked up the slack for me and gave me all the time I needed.

And I, in that time was focusing on being really intentional. And I, I think that if we don't fill ourselves up, if we come back before we're ready and if we go head first into things, when we're running on film still, we're not going to be able to put what we want into it. And we're going to get super frustrated.

And I, I did that because I wanted to come back faster than normal to work, to working out. To being alone with my kids to raising them, but I'm having seizures. And I, you know, I'm still learning how to like come back from some of these deficits. And typing's a huge part of my job. And my fingers weren't really working, took forever to type like an email.

So grace was the ultimate, the ultimate thing that I had to give myself important to my. I need to just talk to somebody. I needed a therapist to help me through this stuff. As much as I resisted it, I was like, Nope, I'm not going to a group. I'm not going to therapy. They're just going to dig up all these things.


it was like, and that's the thing is I realized, like you can't just keep pushing stuff down and expecting everything. Be fine. And like time heals, all wounds, that's bull crap because it just makes it infected and it makes it worse. And so I learned all of that the hard way. And that's probably why I was so receptive with you and I, my, my therapist as well, like this is something like real, like we have to do the work and we have to make sure that we're ready to come back and not forcing.

Yeah, that's so important. And I think people can tangibly hold to that no matter what their storyline is. Um, and especially comparative to that health fleet place because your body is actually inhibiting you. But we think about that from a physicality and not necessarily from that mental health perspective.

Um, And had in what he told the people was an ear infection on the third day of school last week. And they like, oh, like he's a little warm. He definitely doesn't feel good. So we got in and we took him to the pediatrician and pediatrician. I was like, it's not even really red. Like he's totally fine. And he can go back to school and I'm like, oh, great.

Okay, cool. So it's just a little bit of allergy. Like his ears are just popping. And so he was like, no, like so sad. Right. And the doctor was like, well, you know, something. You know, it's good for them to have mental health stays. Well, my eight year old now understands what mental health days are. I was like, no, no, no.

I do believe that that there is a process for them as well, that deep, but not on the third day of school and not anytime soon. Quick commercial break. I know I hate these things too, but it's so critical that you grow your business for God's sake. And I mean, that pun intended with all the love in my heart to get you from a place of ideation to activation, stop dreaming, start doing stand up, start saying yes to the call that God has on your life.

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We cannot wait to see there. I have the curiosity, as you were sharing about the therapist experience, because I remember too having this massive perspective on the therapy, the therapist as a whole therapy. What does that say about me? If I am going to see a therapist. And so when I first went and had that couch experience, I actually rejected the, the process as a whole.

Um, I was not in a willing submissive mindset at all towards it. It was almost talking myself in circles. By the time I left, rather than being in this state of receiving nursery, I was like, I'm almost in a, more of a stance of pride, even though I knew. Space. I needed this space. Talk me through like, what happened with you?

So, um, I verbally processed a lot in that first meeting and I didn't realize like, you know, I'm one of those people who gets in my head and I just like, let things go wild. And to verbally process is something that I realized the importance of, because you can't just like cut yourself off and go off to the next thing.

Like you have to make like, something makes sense for the person who's listening. And so sometimes hearing these things out loud, she would just stop and be like, really. And I'm like, ah, this sound gross. Like that is, that's definitely not true. Um, I think that really like helped me that she was not afraid to call me out.

Like I needed somebody who would do that. And you know, like my best friends, like they know like you can call me out and we that's like our thing because we need someone to hold us accountable. And until then I think, um, there were so many people that loved me and they were letting me heal the way I wanted to.

But that there's a difference between enabling somebody and like really helping somebody move past these blocks that they're having so they can get better. And, um, I had, we had, um, our ten-year anniversary was coming up and there was this trip to Hawaii and we, when we got married, we spent all of our money.

We've got all of our money on the wedding because we wanted a bunch of people to come. And then we had no money for a honeymoon. So we're like 10 year anniversary. We're going to go to Hawaii. And so like, we had saved up and we like had this plan and then my therapy became about getting on the plane to go to Hawaii because I was like, it's.

I was like, Like just, I was shaking. I was so scared and panic attacks all the time. Um, like I knew, but my body wasn't like in alignment. And so that's one of the things that I teach when I coach is like your mind, the way that you think, and the thoughts that you believe in the things that you feel and the way that you.

Like those all have to be in alignment. And when one's not in alignment, then we have to get to the root of that and figure that out. And once I did that, it was like, okay, I can, I can do the hard things I can get on the plane. And so I had this motivation to, so I think maybe if you are going to therapy to have like some kind of motivation, like, what is it you want out of this and not just showing up just to show up, because if you're passive in the experience, you're going to get a passive.

Oh, yeah. And I think that was a huge part of it for me. And I think even thinking through the process of the people who are around you and keeping you accountable in that season, um, there is a difference between people who are just surrounding you and the people who've actually given access to the fact that you've had those conversations with people and said, listen, keep me sharp.

Like I am here iron sharpens iron. Like I am here to be sharpened. It in and peruse through life with you. It took me a couple of therapists to find the one who was like, uh, I'm going to call you on that. I, I had never allowed myself to be read before I had never allowed somebody, even my husband at that point when I was experiencing therapy to really see the inner workings of my brain.

And so the fact that you were able to just. But like, right. And then for somebody to be on the other end and not just receive it and take notes and like affirm what I'm feeling, because that's what happened at the beginning of the affirm, what I was feeling and the things that I was feeling were actually wrong because they were rooted in wrong motivation and belief systems.

Right? Yes. People have this perspective, that therapy is just going to be this like massive visa Saab sesh, or they're just going to go back and like pick apart your childhood. And I know people who were like, I'm good. I'm okay. And you're like, okay. Yeah, sure. How bad would that? Let me know how it goes, but I believe.

Unpacking those things. And even walking through what you did to be able to have the understanding of the belief systems you probably even were still holding onto at that point has now allowed you to be in the trajectory and the path of purpose that God has put you on. Now, not to say that you weren't walking in purpose before, but how have you seen that evolve based on not just this experience with.

It's just been it's unexpected. It's always unexpected. And I, um, as I was going through this and I was sharing things and I wrote my story and I, I wasn't intending to write a book, which was funny. I mean, I knew I was writing something and I knew I wanted my kids to know that they can do hard things.

And my mom had, had shared with me that she had. Uh, compiled and printed, like all of my social posts over like a year when I was going through this stuff. But you know, when you're on social media and you're like doing it, it's on your personal page. And you're just saying stuff and I'm like, well, I don't know if this is the story I want to share.

Like, I wasn't intentionally thinking like they, these posts for my kids one day, and then I kind of felt like, man, is she like preparing for me to die? And like, this is, she was going to handle it, like your mom. And I was like, you know, you let your mind go. Okay. No, and I want them to throw them away and I'm like, so if she's going to throw these away, I gotta replace them with something.

So, um, I started writing and it just kind of came. And I, I initially had to say this. I was trying to take God out of it because I wanted so many. I wanted the broader audience to know like hard things are overcoming. Everything is overcomeable. And when I did that, I got stuck. I got writer's block because God was a huge part of my journey of getting angry and him coming back and me coming back actually.

And he was already there and, and learning how to take communion for healing mentally, physically, and, and all of these things that were part of my story that was trained. When I put them back in, it just kind of flowed and it just, it was amazing. Like I just kind of, I wouldn't stop writing and writing and Hey, I wrote it so quickly.

And then, um, you know, it came to pass and other people started reading it and they were like, you know, taking stuff away from it. And I was like, you got something out of this. Cause I'm like, you're going through, that's completely different. And. The feedback I was getting from that. And then the connections I was making from that, um, where I was meeting people and, and, and helping people just kind of like serving them through my experience, just all over the country and, and the world, even just kind of like having these conversations on the side, and then I'm having people, you know, wanting me to help them officially and professionally.

And I was like, no, no, no. I'm like not certified to do that stuff. Who am I, you know, like, So I pushed that off for a years. Um, until it was like a parent, it was like God saying like, no, no, no, no. And so I, I did move forward and I found my, my foundation in him again, to coach people through what's going on in their lives and, and, and how to get through these transitions that we have are these hard spots.

And so it's really been like, My own experience coupled with faith, and then also learning this whole component of this structure of helping people and like how that looks and, and seeing so many varieties, like over the years. You know, out of my service that has helped me help people in deeper ways. Now that's crazy.

We had this like, um, uh, pithany at, of the journey, right? Where it was an epiphany that he was like, Consistent persistent, persistent. Like I'm going to put this in front of you. I'm going to position it so that you can not walk around the detour that I'm putting in front of you and say, Hey, um, I feel like that was something that happened with me as well.

And, and I think it's really important that people. Take a pause when that happens, not in the pause of like, I'm going to quit everything, I'm gonna throw it. This is the purpose I'm going to run towards of her quiz, but more so the questioning and the processing and the receiving of those blessings or God winks or whatever it is that you call them.

And so now as you help people persistently. Uh, on a regular basis and understanding that I am sure the gamut of, um, situations has been brought to you, right? Like any hardship ever. And you're thinking how me, why me? Like, God, I surrender that. I don't even have the answer to this one, but clearly they're positioned with me for a reason.

Talk us through from a coaching perspective. What do you do? What's your like, processing like. So I don't have the answers, but all of my clients have the answers they know, and God's going to give them the answers if he hasn't already. And so my, my job is to really just help them uncover those things.

And then we get a little bit deeper, you know, then that surface level stuff, like what, you know, like not just this thing happened to go what happened. And, and when we talk about. So many people don't understand their feelings and where their feelings come from. And it's like, it made me feel like this. So I did that and it's like, no, like something can't make you do something or make you feel something you don't want to feel.

So just helping people understand. It's like, There's belief systems. There's thoughts that you're having after you're aware of something after you're triggered by something that is causing you to feel something. And when we feel something, it changes our total biology. And the more we do that, the more we're going to be in a certain state.

And so it's really a matter of like getting to what is that belief system. Proving it wrong because 90% of the time is wrong and then like replacing it and growing those good thoughts, growing that inner cheerleader I was talking about. So that, that inner hater can just be quiet and let you live your life.

Um, but there's just, there's so many things that are interconnected, just helping people be able to. Like how their, how their mind works, how their emotions, their biology, so they can be in control of it. And God gave us this amazing spirit. And so many people are afraid. So when people are timid and I always go back to two Timothy, one seven, it says, God did not give us.

Fear and in the NIV version, it says timidity, which I love that one too. Cause it's like, it's both like we can't, you know? Um, but he gives us a spirit, like, uh, he's given us a spirit and we're made in his image of power. So we have power. We have like a 40 love, which is like the greatest thing. And self-discipline so we can be in charge of our bodies and what we do.

It's not an accident. We are not like just accidentally living our life. Like we. And we're supposed to have intention. The word that kept coming to me as you were explaining, like the forefront was the word apathy and how I feel like a lot of times we are living in this like mundane cycle of apathy.

Like, I feel this way, this is happening to me. This is what my circumstances. And, and you just walk that out. And even if you're a cheerful person, you can still have a lot of apathy, even if a lot of things are happening really great in your life, you can still have a spirit of apathy. And so being able to remove that piece with that intentionality changes, everything doesn't mean when you have intention that everything is peachy gang, it's just like when you come to know God, like he doesn't just like wave as.

But Barry won there, the lamp, like the genie, right? Like that's not how it works. Um, but it, what I found most critically in that patient's process that you were talking about is, is the process of threshing and what that actually looks and feels like. And every single time I'm reminded that there can be.

Seasons of threshing that then help you harvest something totally different. And so we often feel, and I say this up to myself, I can't believe this is happening again. Or why is this happening? I already overcame. I already overcame. I overcame. Please. I don't want to do it again, or I don't want to do this news thing.

I've already gotten to this level of alignment. I already get it. And so I think when we talk about intentionality and also the process of threshing, because I know that you still are being threshed and sharpened on a consistent basis, like how do you create that inner critic or that inner cheerleader beyond just those three steps, which I think are really powerful on a daily basis.

Like how do you cheer for you? Well, I remind myself when I am being, um, refined as I like to call it. That sounds way better than fresh feels really like tossed to and fro

gets thrown around and we're like, oh my gosh, it's a mess. And then it's up to us to put everything back where it goes or put it somewhere new, somewhere better. Like, I didn't realize that needed to go there actually. And so I think of it as, instead of an obstacle that I'm being faced in new opportunities.

To go through something. And I feel like if God's giving me more adversity, that means that he must really think I'm capable of a lot. And so that's kind of like this inner cheerleader saying like, Hey, like if he gives, he's giving this to you, that means he's going to do something with this. And that's my ultimate desire is to do his will in big ways.

And I can't do that being small and playing small, I have. Brave enough to do things that are uncomfortable. And we all have like our level of comfort, right. Our comfort zone. And it's always a little bit bigger as we get older and grow. It's a it's, it's safe because we know it, but that doesn't mean that it's good or that it's best for us.

And that's why people stay in hard situations or keep making the same mistake because they understand that that circle, they understand that comfort zone. But if we can step out of it in positive ways with intentionality or like something happens to us and we know we have to do something that's like, Gary now that we'll have a payoff later, we do it because then we're expanding our level of comfort, our comfort zone.

And so it just keeps growing and growing and we keep just getting better and better. And like, let me tell you, like, just coming back to, you know, something physical, tangible we can talk about is like, I'm not anymore, but I was a super claustrophobic person and that stemmed from some childhood trauma. So when I was getting in the seat or the MRI machine, I'm going to be drugged up every time.

And I was like, I am not. I finally got off all of these drugs for everything that I was going through and all of my treatments, I don't want to willingly put like substances in my body. That aren't good for me. Like nothing's going to happen. I'm not going to die if I do this, like, it's going to be uncomfortable for 45 minutes, but what's the worst that can happen.

You know? So I started doing that over and over again and here I am and I don't eat anything anymore. You know what I mean? But it's like so many things in our life, like public speaking, I. Quiver at the idea. And it's like, well, I'm being called God. So I'm doing your thing. I feel like Moses, you know, he was like, and I'm like, I can't do this, but the more I do it, the more comfortable I get.

So my comfort zone is growing and that's just what I try and like, help people understand is we're not meant to be here, you know? Yes, the glass box I had, um, I was at a conference in New York city for breakfast, with champions, which I know you're familiar with. And, um, they asked our neighbors. To write down three adjectives that we've learned of that person.

Now, remember, remember I'm in a room of strangers at this point, other than maybe clubhouse interaction, which is only so intimate. And one of the words that a new person who I'd never even seen, heard or spoken to ever on social media at all, he wrote down the word disruptor and he wrote down the word God, and he wrote down the word joy.

And I was like, Holy cow, like that is incredible one. He's not a believer. So the fact that he wrote that, I was like, well, thank you that you see like, God enough, or I've spoken about him enough in the short 24 hours that we've been with each other joy because I try to exude that because it's like my, I believe my natural gift, but then that last part disruptor I'm like, how could he gather that from me?

And so I have. Wire. And I think when we think about comfort zones, we think about, we know we're supposed to get out of the boat. Right. And nothing about getting out of the boat feels comfortable. You don't have the tools, you don't have the ability, like all the things intentionally, because God's intentionality is for us to get uncomfortable so that he can show us what true comfort is or is in his loving arms.

In his mercy, in his ability to cover all things that seem impossible with impossibility. And so I love, love, love that we have an ability to call that out in other people. And I think it's really important, especially when we've walked through it, to let people know, just like we said, we're willing to be sharpened, let them know.

I think you're a little too comfortable. It's okay. That you're uncomfortable when you do this hard thing. Yeah, it totally is. And it's like, when we think about, you know, all of, all of the things you were saying too, like I, something I've come to really like find comfort in when we're doing these scary things.

Yeah. You know, we always think of God's provision that and some people, and I used, maybe you think of this too. Or some people do thinking, well, that means God's always going to take care of me, but that's not what it means. Not at all. It means that God is the provision. And so if I'm inviting him into this story, like he is the provision of this he's if I'm inviting him into anything, the hard things, the good things, he's going to do something with it.

And that is the company. That helps us step out of comfort zone. And I think like sometimes we get lost in that. And a lot of times, if you ask someone, um, they don't necessarily need to be called out. It's like, if you just give them enough time to talk and you're like, Hmm, your expression. And they're like, oh, I know what I need to do because I don't want to lead them down a road that doesn't feel authentic or right to them.

I want them to see that there's multiple. Wait to go about things. Not everything in life is fixed. So many things we think are fixed are totally flexible. Totally flexible. So true. And, and I don't think I've heard that often spoken about fixed versus flexible and understanding that. I think if you think about it from a perspective of faith, people would flex the, the Bible.

Right. And so talk me through like the perspective of. What what's fixed biblically versus what's flexible with. Like that feels like a big, and normally I don't go, like, I think God, and the word like that is fixed. Like there's things we don't quite understand about it. So our mentality about it can be flexible.

And so things when I'm reading and I'm like, oh no, like that's not right when it comes to like my, my pride as a woman, you know? And so I will go and I'll dig a little deeper. And there was, for example, like there was a. Um, um, I don't remember what book I was reading, but it was about how women should be quiet in church and ask their husbands, you know, questions after church.

I was like, Hmm. So I did some research. I didn't just take that at that and get upset. I looked in and the blue letter Bible app is like my friend, like my, my nerdy Bible resource, and anybody can get it, but if you click on it, you can get texts. Um, commentary. From scholars on all of these things. And what I learned is that in that time, these Gentiles who are coming into the Jewish church, like they didn't know how, like the rules were, how to like, keep it like so that the person who has preaching could actually preach, but he kept getting interrupted and women and meds and on different sides of the room because probably men were distracted.

I don't know, probably. So the, the women would be. You know, the person's over here. And so that was causing like some kind of disruption in the church and I'm like, okay, that makes sense. Like, they're just trying to like, make sure everyone hears the word, you know? And so I think when we take the time to really dig into some of the meanings of the Bible and really understand that truth in it, we can change our fixed perspectives on that so that we can live more in tune and more in line with the truth of the word and not like.

Fearful like, you know, fear of God. It's like, no, that's like a respect and a reverence. You know what? I knew this deepen our relationship with him. We, we, yeah, it's interesting. As you were saying it, what, how I was processing it and it could be wrong again, I'm learning as, as I'm receiving, just as a listener is, but I feel like religion is very.

And I feel like Jesus is very flexible and I don't mean that he allows us to do things and stuff. Yes. There is freewill, which was a component that was chosen by him to allow us to have, um, but it makes me think through like the flexibility of. Yeah, right. And that he, I watched the chosen a lot and I love it.

And I think there, the fact that I hear that I'm echo-y I guess on Instagram, sorry, you guys were trying something new, so we'll figure it out next time. Um, but is you would watch the disciples who he is literally like this close with, right? Like. The flesh. So close to be able to walk hand in hand, which we pray for every single day.

I can imagine being in that state, but he allows them to fall. He allows them to Bumble. He allows them to figure things out and to argue and to say the words they shouldn't say. And he could easily nip that in the butt, but sometimes he's just standing there. Yeah, just like we do when our kids like, do something wrong and I laugh and I'm like, oh my God, you don't do that again.

But I can see like, his sense of humor comes to life in the flexibility of who he is based on race and based on vast amount of love as you're sharing. And also through that. I agree. And he, I mean, right, like God came to us in human form. So he understands us. He understands that things in life are going to take us and we're going to respond in different ways.

But when he allows us, like you say, to have that human experience, that just makes all of our days get better and more purpose. And when we wake up, it's like, okay, God, you're not done. You know? And if we're too afraid to like, make those mistakes and to fail, then it's like, are we really. Living or are we just alive?

And I don't want to be someone who's just alive. You know, I know that that's a gift, but like, dang it. If he woke me up from that surgery and he woke me up today, I want to live. I don't want to just exist. Oh my God. Every title I've wanted to change the title of this so many times. So good. And I hope that people are taking notes and are able to come back to it.

And if not, I know that they can get their hands on your book, which will have some of these gems as well as through your coaching programs. So I'd love for you to just share a bit about where's the best place to hang out with you and how they can get integrated, um, with more of your. Yeah. So Instagram is where I hang out the most.

So I'm, I'm Andy, the new girl on Instagram with a Y a N D Y. I don't know why my name is Andrea. And like, I guess, I don't know if I did that when I was little, everyone called me Andy's I have the boys spelling of it. It's always funny, but anyways, Andy, the new girl on Instagram, I'm in everywhere. Cause it's not taken anywhere so on clubhouse and Twitter and all the things, but I mostly hang out on Instagram.

Um, and then Andy, the new girl.com has all of the. So I have free resources. I have a life practice as I like to call it articles. So you can really like find something that you might be struggling with, like finding your community or, um, something that has to do with your emotions or, or, you know, anything that you're really looking through that library will have some kind of hopefully help for you and inspiration.

Um, and then I have some different coaching options. I have personal coaching and then I do a program. So it's kind of a 12 week and it's all in step. You know, we, we know what we're going to do every week and it's all faith-based. And then I also have a mastermind that's quarterly. So that helps us be in community with like-minded people who want to level up a little.

So good. You are not to JV. You'd have any, you guys, we don't even tap in to all of her business knowledge and marketing background and agency that she started. And it's, it's amazing. Like you have to get integrated with people who have those shared experiences, but also those vastly different experiences that help you.

A little better live a little bit more alive, and that's exactly how Andy always makes you feel. She makes you feel new again, which has the name of her book. And I want you guys to get your hands on it, healing through perspective, um, and just interact with her because she's a real human, not a highlight, real human.

And I am grateful for everything that you're doing in, in the other side of the country. And eventually we're going to come together and we love you. Singing your praises. Thank you guys for being here and we'll be in touch soon. All right. Thank you so much.

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