• Tamra Andress

Humor Connects Us All with Rory Gardiner

He's a comedian, he's an artist, a musician, and he's also an incredible speaker and just a voice of reason. I love how God has just continued to evolve and open doors to him in this journey of becoming, because it all started with a software company, which is weird and also awesome. It led to things like being on stage with Keith Urban, starring in shows, being picked by Underarmour for his sound, America's Funniest Home Videos, or a TEDx talk. I mean, the list goes on and on, and what he's got going on next is just amazing.

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CCMA nominated artist has shared the stage with a number of great country acts like Keith Urban. You've heard his music on television with actors like Kevin Nealon or pro athletes like Chris Bosh & Arnold Palmer. Fusing his extensive music background with stand-up comedy you can catch him in performing art centers, and private engagements throughout Canada, USA, and Australia.

He has made a number of television appearances for brands like Under Armor, or shows like The Handmaids Tale. He is the host of the "Balanced Artist" podcast which helps the purpose-driven creators' journey suck a little less & thrive a little more. Creating art around your lifestyle, not the other way around.

His comedy sketches have been featured on Funny or Die, America’s Funniest Videos, and you can catch his hilarious TEDx Talk on using humor as a coping mechanism.

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I love laughter I don't know who doesn't love. Laughter. I think that that's a common thing. Some people don't like their laughs, which is doesn't make sense to me because laughing is like a universal love language. It's like when fresh snow is falling on the ground, it's like when you see a baby, a newborn baby.

I mean to me, laughter is a sense of magic because it comes from a place that is so pure and that's what Roy Gardner gets to evoke in people. Every single day. He's a comedian, he's an artist and a musician, and he's also an incredible speaker and just a voice of reason. And yet a voice of. And you can tell that in this conversation in so many different ways, and I love how God has just continued to evolve and give open doors to him in this journey of becoming, because it started with a software company.

So that's weird and also awesome. It led to things like being on stage with Keith urban or starring in shows or being, uh, picked up by Underarmour for a brand for his sound and America's funniest home videos or a TEDx talk. I mean, The list goes on and then it's pretty wild. What he's got going on next carnival cruise lines, the UN I mean, just amazing.

You've got to get connected to Roy Gardner and he has a new album out as well. You should so check out and download Spotify, YouTube, all the places. He's also got a fresh Tik TOK where he was love your attention and ultimately just tune into the his show and leave us a review. Tag him in your stories.

If you decide to screenshot and just enjoy. Joy a little laughter today. We need more of it.

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I'm your host, Tamra and dress. And this podcast, isn't like the cookie cutter interview experience. I've been coined the entrepreneurial rabbi. And so we do go there unscripted, no matter how far wide, deep or high there is. My desire is to see people rise from the inside, out, into their greatest calling, by sharing their truest stories, talents.

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Yeah, we gotta go. You guys are alive in action. All right. What'd you think about that intro? You look at school and it's not me luckily, but I'll ask Morgan and let you know, you got to meet Morgan. Right? When we were at the conference at Grove for God. Everything backstage that you can imagine and just absolutely incredible artists.

In fact, as are you. I did, I was surprised when I saw her on stage, like singing away. I'm like, wow, that's a Desiree to you. I'd ever really. Right. And what's interesting as I was reading your bio. Prepped for this show. I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't even know half of these things.

I don't know if they weren't in the workbook at grow for God, or I just didn't do enough backstory, but this is one of my favorite things about podcasting is we have the opportunity to really dive deep, look through a different lens and learn about you some more. So I'm excited to do that. Let's do it.

Alright. So you guys are with the one and only worry. And if you guys have not yet gotten invested in his music, his comedy, his podcasts, any of the things that he has done in the past specifically is hilarious. TEDx talk, uh, you're you're in for a treat today, and I hope you can drop some one-liners on us because you had my kids after the conference, CNA singing the song.

For a while on the way to school. So you have this, this podcast. I want to know more about this, cause I actually haven't tuned in yet balanced artists. Talk to me about how that parallels to your story and why you decided to start podcast. That was a, I have two sides of me. One is like the side that you saw at the, uh, the conference, which is kind of like the comedian side, but also there's like a side that says I want to offer value to, uh, to an audience.

And for some, you know what I mean? It just, I meet people specifically. Uh, even people at the conference who were like, I, I love what you do. And I have a little bit of that inside me. I just don't know how to do it, or have the confidence to do it or whatever the case may be. And so I just decided to do this podcast just to share my journey or share the journeys of others or bring on people that are better than I am to, uh, share their situation and hopefully offer value that way.

So people who hear that I have a podcast they're like, well, is it, is it funny? Is. Honestly, no, it's very informative. It is a great conversations, similar to what we're having right now. Well, I love so much. I felt that, and actually got to witness the different parts to you. And I feel like I'm always like really high energy.

And even on my most somber days, people can expect something out of me that brings light or laughter or something. And I had this like individual conversations with you and I was like, Wait, is he the comedian artist guy? Cause he's so somber. And then you got up on stage and I was like, wow. And then we got to have dinner with you.

And I got to see a little bit of both. And so I just think it's really neat that you have those extra layers and I I'm curious, do you feel more vulnerable when you're on stage in the comedian realm or in the musician realm? That's a good question. Uh, vulnerable problem. I mean, With comedy you're, you're expressing yourself through words.

I realized that lyrics are words, but you're, you're trying to have a conversation with the audience when you're doing stand-up comedy. And so anything can go wrong. Whereas if you're singing a song, things can go wrong. But not as many things as a stand-up comedy set. Yeah. So I feel, you know, I've been doing it for a long time now and I still get butterflies every time I go on the comedy stage.

I love that. When did you start realizing or were you tapped into like being funny? Like, cause my son is eight and he's hilarious, but I don't know that I could ever convince him to get up on stage to do. I was doing music for like 15 years. And I got, I was doing these theater shows and I would love to talk in between the songs to the audience during these shows.

And I was like, this is way more fun than singing the actual song. So why don't I just get rid of the songs altogether and just talk to them? And then standup comedy came in and I haven't, I was going to say, I haven't looked back since, but I still do music and I kind of combined both of them into, into one.

One thing you do, it's such a unique art. I think that there was there like a breakout experience where you realized that you could combine both of them. It was, yeah, there's, uh, I have that history of, of playing music. So it's just, it comes naturally to me. And I find that it's hilarious when we're talking about vulnerability, because I've been told several times that although I'm comfortable on stage when I'm just doing straight stand-up, as soon as they bring the guitar into it.

There's something that changes like this without knowing it, people could just see like this 20 year music background of like confidence that comes in and then all of a sudden it just elevates a little bit. And I can't explain it. It's just, I guess, experience does its own thing. Yeah. Well, it was, it was Shirley.

I, I didn't get to. And sit in the front for most people who are sharing on stage that weekend. And you are one of those people, I'm like, I need a break. And this sounds like a great time to take it. Cause I could hear the audience laughing and just you tears taking on that different form. It was really fun to watch and just sit there.

Um, not only. But to laugh because I think laughter has a whole element of wellbeing that I don't think people speak to a lot when they talk about like self care or self development or growth. I'd love to hear like what laughter has done in your life and how you, and why you decided to go and do the TEDx.

Talk about laughter or humor and coping. Well, I'll be honest with you. The Ted talk thing, wasn't exactly a decision as much as it was a, a, a calling from mother nature. So I've been doing these, uh, I've been an entertainer for such a long time. And a lot of it was, I was entertaining people, but was I really changing their lives?

Was I really offering a value to their life? Yeah. Other than entertainment. Not really. And so I struggled with that. Like, do I have a purpose? Is there a point in doing any of this? Right. I just, I feel like I wanted purpose in my life. And so, uh, in 2018, I, family and neighborhood got destroyed with this tornado.

It just kind of came out of nowhere and, uh, unexpectedly like no one expects a tornado to come ripping up your driveway. I'm in the living room with the kids and my neighbor's pool ended. Which is a pretty good indication that I should put on some pants and then a panic sets in, and I grabbed my favorite kit and we head down to the basement and then the roof flies off and the kids' swing set disappears.

Uh, but they don't care because now they have a new pool because it was finder's keepers. Right. Like we're insured. It was all taken care of. It was more of the inconvenience, like 20 minutes before the tornado happened. Uh, I had just vacuumed, Tamra, and I'm never going to get that time back. All right.

Yeah. That's the biggest adversity that no, I'm kidding. And so after it happened the next day, once we discovered no one was injured or no one was, there was no fatalities. We were looking at the damage and we just, basically, I picked up a camera and just started monologuing, you know, doing a head cribs parody, like here's my tree house because there was a tree in my bedroom.

Right. And, uh, all my neighbors were, were panicking and calling. It was, I was just trying to put a smile on their faces. And so this is the best thing I could think of. And I sent the link around and it got. Tens of thousands of times, and then somehow got it in the hands, the TEDx people, if they're like, we love to hear a, we'd love your, your display of overcoming adversity using humor.

And, um, without knowing it, I guess I was doing that. And so I went to Colorado and did this talk and, uh, it's been shared, uh, you know, at PTSD conferences and it's, uh, therapists use it to treat their trauma patients. It's a great way to show sublimation, which is, uh, Replacing a negative situation with a positive.

And so that was the first time that I realized that what I do does in fact have value. At is incredible. I think the part that I love the most is dislike. It's like that dry sense, right? Cause you'd be like, is this okay to be actually joking about, because it's kind of a really serious thing and people can lose their lives.

And it was just that massive tornado that just happened. I'm in Arkansas and 50 people did lose their lives and we've lost those family members and thinking through each of the pieces, not just the loss of lives, but the experience and how he literally said it was a calling from mother. Pun intended for people to recognize that when they can lean into the lightheartedness of what is occurring death, maybe not, but there are components even to my, my grandmother's tragic death that happened earlier this year, that we can all bring together laughter from her.

Not necessarily the situation, but it allowed us to cope in such a healthy way, rather than anger or, um, frustration towards how everything went down, which I'm sure there's a lot of that. Um, in the hearts and homes of the people who have lost lives recently that's right. The, I mean, and the, the humor comes from a place of, because there were, there were no injuries.

I wouldn't have delivered it that way if there was, but I would've found humor in some other light, uh, and expressed it differently. Yeah, completely. So are you as like a dad, because I think one of the most humorous things that I've experienced in life is being a mom. Like there's just some ridiculous things that transpire.

Have you been able to utilize or tap in as a parent in that realm? Do any of your kids have that similar trait? Yeah, both my kids have different traits, but they're both humorous in different ways. So what I let's just say. Uh, I'll call the oldest kid more of like a Jerry Seinfeld type of humor, where he is just very inquisitive, very analytical, so he can, he'll be able to he's nine, but I mean, he, he, if he try to, he could write a good joke and like just deliver it on point and really edit it that way to be perfect.

The other one is the opposite end of the spectrum, where he just is just a crazy person who just like goes off the seat of his pants and. You know, he's just hilarious in his own way, but way less analytical. So I, I feel like I'm the combination of both of those. So I they're definitely my kids. That's good.

You get to tap into both sides, I think is really, really fun. A bit about maybe some childhood experiences that led you into not only music, but the humor side of things. And just kind of the growth of stepping into that. I was on a call earlier today with Brian Hess, who also spoke at the Grove for God conference and will again next year.

And he was talking about, you know, young entrepreneurs and the opportunity of, of really developing people earlier than the blueprint cookie cutter. Now. Well, now you go to college. Now you get a job that you actually don't like. And now all these things that happen in life. And I think the route of an artist and musician a comedian is likely a lot different than that.

So talk us through yours. It's I think a lot of us grow up if you're, if a lot of people grow up in that same sort of environment, that your parents just want you to get a good job, like something safe when you're older. And I was lucky enough to grow up in that environment. As an artist. I, a complaint about it all the time.

Like my, where my parents like forced me to get a college education. Like it's poor me. Right, right. I'm saying that too. So, so that's what I did. I, I appeased that side. I honored my parents and I got the education and I started a software consulting company in my twenties, but that allowed me to balance to be able to, right now I have income.

And now I can start my creative side, but now having that income, I have, uh, I it's like a sponsor. You know what I mean? I no longer have to worry about being a cashier at a grocery store. I have like a solid, passive income coming in and now I can really focus on the creative side. So. Went to Nashville in my twenties, I was like, I'm going to self-fund my own album.

Because at that time record labels, aren't exactly looking for software guys assigned to their record labels. So I go and we record the best possible album that I could have. You know, I'm using Schneider Twain's fiddle player. I got Reba McEntire as a guitar player here in Nashville, you know, all this stuff, right.

And so I bring it back to Canada and I'm very excited to release this debut album. Then they radio did not love it. They're like, it's pretty good, but it's not what we're looking for right now. I'm like, cool. Uh, that's $40,000. I'll never get back. So I hung it on there. I just threw it on YouTube. I'm gonna go, you know, people will find it eventually.

And. A couple of years go by and I get this call from New York and we're like this ad agency. We want to use your song in this, this commercial, this ad campaign for some blood thinning, whatever. I was like, cool, go ahead. I didn't realize that like, music licensing was like a big thing in the music industry.

The thing really. Exactly. So that it ended up in this commercial with like Earl Palmer and Kevin Dylan. And they got played all over north America for like four straight years, ended up buying one of the co-writers, uh, You know, a down payment on his house and his engagement ring for his fiance. And it ended up bankrolling my next three albums.

And it just occurred to me that, okay, I was shooting for radio stardom, but maybe my stuff wasn't positioned or perfect for that, but it was perfect for something else, but more or less stories, I wouldn't have known that had I not created it to begin with. That was a long time ago and I've just lived every day to that same principle.

It's like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you don't take. So we just try to create it. It might suck, but you never know. It could be, it may not suck. It may just be not positioned for what you think it is. The thing is not the thing is not the thing or whatever that saying is so good. It's like, as you're speaking, I am processing so many things happening in my life right now.

And as an entrepreneur, like I have. You know, my hands and all these different baskets, right? Like constantly thinking up new things and wanting to create and design. And my team thinks I'm Netty and I'm like, but it's all good. It's all great. Like, you're going to be able to maintain, just see if you can stay on the same page with me today or for the minute.

Cause it's gonna change in a minute. But I think that there's, that, that truth to the understanding that if it's deposited in you, if there is that sense of calling that sense of purpose, also the gift and talent connected to. Why would you not try? You know, never know if you don't ask. Right. And then you never can if you never do.

And so I, I am really adamant about like, allowing yourself to emerge in your ideas and actually taking action in them. They're not always. And there's that concept of fail forward. Um, but they've been my biggest learning lessons that if I didn't do those things, even small things that are coming to fruition now that I did a decade ago, that I'm saying, holy cow, I spent four months creating a curriculum at a school that I never actually taught.

It just sat on my computer. And just last week, someone was like, Hey, you should really teach this genre of curriculum and make it a school. That's really interesting. I could do that. Right. And so it's just the application of, rather than the sitting and just talking about it. Exactly. And you're one of those people that I resonate with you because we, other people might perceive us as just a little scatterbrained.

I got an eight it's like, we just have so many things pulling us in different directions, but someone like yourself, like you're the vehicle that other less, more. Th the, the vehicle that, that really you need to take to the, to the next destination. It's a terrible analogy, but you know what I'm talking about that?

No, I understand. It's like, and th the cool thing about it is, is, is my heart is not centered on I'm the only one going, I did that though, long and wrong way for a decade. And so my heart is really like, here, here's the beat. Jumped blunt, like jump on it and come one come. All right. Um, it's why creating a conference and thinking through the incredible assets that I have right at my fingertips of people who are speakers, teachers, educators, musicians, creatives, and I want all of them to be there and like, okay, I'm just going to have to create five more conferences to make that happen.

And I'm okay with it. I'm like, let's go I'm in for it. And so, as you're thinking through like all of the gifts and talents that you have, and maybe even some of the ideas, what as like a projection towards the coming years, what are some of the ideas that you have that you've been, we've been pondering over and potentially activating that you haven't yet?

Well, basically I'm trying to expand on what I'm already doing, but I'm coming at it from a different perspective. I been searching for a long time for purpose. Like, what am I doing? Have any value to anyone else, but I'm trying to do it less for myself now and more in the service of others. And that's how I've kind of reframed it in my head so that it doesn't necessarily mean starting a nonprofit or just doing only charity gigs or whatever.

But I like, I've been built with this skill set, which kind of acts again as a vehicle to. Oh, hopefully deliver hope and positivity to others through the lens of stand-up comedy. And so that's what I try to deliver. Uh, if I can encourage anyone else to do the same thing. And that's why I get to have these great conversations on the balanced artists podcast, because now I get to share my, what I'm going on inside my head.

And hopefully other people can kind of relate to. Talk to me about the concept of one purpose. Um, what is your, what is your definition of that? And have you been able to like tap into it enough to help your children unlock what that is now? Or do you think that's even a conversation that you're even having with them yet?

My, my children. Still a little young to really dive into their psyche. I got like seven and nine, I guess. It's not as if they're too young to understand, but it allows me to better understand how I approach them. So if we look at my parents or maybe even your parents, you just want them to succeed and get that education.

Like, I'll give you an example. My, my youngest one right now, he's got a speech language pathology. Problems where the thing is perceptive. Learning's not exactly up to par. So he's a little bit behind the other kids in his class. And so everyone's panicking. We've got to do this and we got to do that. Like, no.

She's not going to be a lawyer. He doesn't want to be that that's not his personality or whatever. So we're just going to shift his learning into something that's going to embrace what, uh, what his strengths are. And so now we get them into the creative arts and we're, we're, we're doing a different approach.

We're looking into Montessori, we're doing the whole deal. So th that's I, I, I find that. What I bring to the table is the understanding that those are possibilities from, because I grew up in this, this artist world, as opposed to the linear thinking that that my parents would grew up. I think that's really true.

And I don't think it's just like, I think it's a generational thing, but I also think that there's a lot more at stake and at play when it comes to the conversations of our evolution as parents and then our children's evolution into their state of purpose, because I have found that it's a very big conversation, but then I think back through the purpose driven life, that was a book.

I don't even know when that book was written, maybe in the nineties, maybe in the eighties, um, such a number one bestseller for so long. And so I feel like everybody's always clawing or trying to understand what is my purpose, your honor is what is my time meant to be doing? How can I help and change the lives of others?

What's that legacy look like? And when I think about legacy in comparison to not in comparison, but in connection to laughter I mean, a joke lasts forever. Like, I think it's one of those things you pass down to your children, your children's children are doing it, right? Like there's certain little sayings, even like six and some, they break your bones, but words will never hurt me.

Like where did that come from? And how did that of all things like catch on. And so I think what you do through words, both in music and in con comedy is, is magical. I think it's so necessary. Yeah. I mean, I agree. It's a really cool art that I'm really trying to, uh, find my place in. And I've been lucky enough to kind of bridge the, uh, The gap.

Like a lot of my colleagues are specifically in comedy clubs, but I've been able to do these speaking gigs. I've been able to take the, uh, the comedic part of it and really offer value in a speaking platform. So with the Ted talk with, uh, with your event in, in Kentucky, um, I've done others. Uh, in between those, and that's my favorite thing to do because it's more of a conversation rather than someone for hire, just to specifically entertain.

Yeah. Yeah. Your, your one song that you saying about like we're not free. Um, it strikes home because I think through the amount of times that I've like knocked on her friends during like, Hey, do you want to play right? And. I think of it as like a, Hey Tamra, would you come and speak? And I'm like, absolutely.

Hey Tamar, would you come and dance? Sure. Let's play like all of those things. But when it comes down to like actually being able to sustain a lifestyle, sustain a family, sustain all of the components, like you can't tap into somebody's gifts and talents consecutively. Without understanding their value and worth connected to that.

And value and worth is not always just displayed in the exchange of money. But I think that there's a big component of my friends who are artists, who are that starving artists rather than the balanced artists perspective. How do you help? And have you helped or supported artists moving from I am on the couch or couch surfing or I can't get a gig to actually being able to convert a little bit more in that realm.

Yeah. I've shared their mindset from, cause I was once there, I was. I needed to make a living. So I'd be in, in pub seven days a week until two in the morning, sitting on a bar stool, trying to entertain these people. And the next morning you'd wake up in. The last thing you want to do is write a song or have the energy to do anything.

But the mentality back then is like, if I get a real job, then I'm a sellout. I'm not a real artist. So if you think about it differently, if you get a job, that's not going to like, what's a. Um, what's that guy's name? Alan Einstein. He used to work in a patent office all day because it was just very linear job.

He didn't have to do much thinking. He just kind of put in his time to get his paycheck so that he could afford to do a science experiments at night and invent the, whatever he invented. So it's. And I've managed to do that myself with this software, a gig it's like, I did it for so long that I it's unconscious to me.

And so now I am able to, self-fund a better life than a starving artist. Yeah, no, and I love that. Like the, the bankroll and the sponsor. I love those two words that you're using. And I think it's a, an antithesis, honestly, to. How I'll coach often, because I also see people in that, that experience of what they're doing, whether it's nine to five, it's easy to, for everybody to understand.

When I say it's a nine to five, but it could be a bar job. I was a bartender and cocktail waitress for a long time. So I understand. And I also understand the cashflow that can be associated to those things with it, which then keeps you comfortable. That you never step out in faith towards what could become.

And so I will be with people and we'll be talking about like how they're terribly hating, waking up to even go to those things. And I think there's a variable in what you're saying, you're doing something that actually you enjoy. Imagine the information that Einstein got in those. In those projects of looking at all of the paper that was coming through that then could be applied to what it is if he was doing.

Um, and so I feel like I don't want to see people sitting miserable in their existence or their time. I want them to stand in that purpose and feel free doing it. But I know that. Money to develop these ideas and these conferences and these gigs and the things that when you create your own stage or your business.

And so I think that it's just a, really, a much safer, probably way. And, uh, also a strategic way to actually show up in all of your strengths, because you can have a job that's nine to five, that's tapping into another realm and not necessarily what you dream of doing for the rest of. But if you can, but you can sort of separate them in your head a little bit.

If you know, what the purpose is, it like don't quit your six-figure accounting job because you want to be an artist all of a sudden, just scale back and just do some part-time consulting because you're going to be able to have opportunities that starting artist wouldn't have that first album I created.

I wouldn't be able to afford that $40,000 bill if I didn't have the, uh, the software thing to, to, uh, Started all off. Right? And so I resented my parents for a couple of years. I caught my ear making me go to college. You're doing this, I'm an artist. I'm going to be a rockstar. I suppose, spoiler. They were right the entire time.

And now I thank them for having these opportunities and everything, since that is, is worked out. I love that so much. I still find it wild to say out loud that I'm a two time bestselling author and have three published books and more to come in the next. It was surreal. And yet exactly where I thought I'd be when I started this podcast in journey fit, and faith was a way to share my story, but I knew it had to be documented differently in the process of my writing, the entire story I shared just one aspect in a women's devotional book called she writes for him stories of resilient.

I talked about nice shame story. And the testimonies that came from that one chapter was the affirmation I needed to keep pursuing the whole story that they're all booked that released last fall called always becoming sex, shame and love Gracie. I know. And not what you think you probably hear on a Christian podcast, but y'all, we have to start talking about the real things, the real conversations.

It's no different than this podcast where we talk about the real things. It's the deep stuff. It's the true stuff that matters. And while talking about business is awesome. And what I show up to do on a daily, as a kingdom entrepreneur and business coach, it's only a fraction of the story. My second best seller was released right after this personal development book.

As a business resource, it's called the female entrepreneurs, playbook and features 20 plus women gifting you, their bloopers. All three of these books make up the most perfect bundle for the fellow female faith-driven world changer and see you at that. So you can go to my site right now and get signed copies of all three Tamra and

Make sure you spelled the camera right. T a. RA it's boring and exciting all at the same time. Cause I stand out Tamra,, click on the book and get yours today. Three, all in one bundle. It's going to change your life because it is mine though. Let's be world changers together. All right. So talk to us a bit about this idea of balance because I.

Often say that balance is a lie. So I want to know when you guys are talking about balance on your show, what are some like, uh, interesting conversations that have emerged that you have then brought home to yourself as a way to teach or have perspective over your life? As an artist? I based it on what I hear most common.

So I get two completely different demographics of people. Like I just mentioned, I get the, the, the accountant who just wants to be creative. But he's so stuck in this one world that he just know how to figure it out. And I got the other one that was stuck in the barstools the entire time they just need to make money.

Uh, there's a, in the balance is the solution. And, and I am the result of that solution. I'm not, uh, I'm not Seinfeld, nor am I, uh, inventing Tesla. But like, I just, if I can, if I can leverage both of those worlds, Then, then I have like a, um, a different outlook on that. I can relate more with, with people in my demographic.

Let's say I'm trying to write jokes to appeal to people who are the working class. I just feel I on my new album, I just released it. Uh, a few weeks ago I have one song called safe and reliable government job. And every lyric in that song is based on experience that I've encountered in, in my past. I wouldn't have had.

Those experiences and to write this area to inspiration, to write the song, had I not gone through it? So I'm having I'm coming at it from a different vantage point. Yeah, I think that that's brilliant. I mean, it's utilizing all of the pieces of self, uh, all experiences and actually applying it into that one space.

I'm curious as your album just came out, I am very like aware of the publishing side, like the books and how that works from like getting to number one. How can we, as a community of listeners help support you in, in getting, is it top of the charts? Is that what you're looking for? Where, where is it?

What's the genre of music? How do we have. I don't even know anymore, to be honest with you, there was a, if this was 15 years ago, it's like, my CD is available on my website. You didn't go get that and everything else, but it's, you know, it's funny. It, it smelt the day I landed in Kentucky, I believe, and I was very happy.

And then I did my talk. The next day I was on this big high, and all these comments were coming in. This is great. And then you get this. That's one comment. It's like these songs suck. And then it's almost like the Lord knows how to keep me humble. Right. With this. That's terrible. And why didn't we know this?

We could have like, had everybody download or I don't know what they do anymore with music stream it. I'm not sure. It's basically anyone who has a streaming platform. Okay. I subscribed to Spotify. Or if you have an apple music, you can just basically stream it for free. It's called modern day problems is it's good for a laugh.

It's my first, I was supposed to record my standup comedy album in 2020, where the real audiences to hear the jokes cause we weren't allowed to in public, so isolated in a recording studio and just wrote a bunch of funny songs. But I, uh, yeah, so on, on those platforms, you can hear my music and you can hear my jokes and all that.

And I, I really don't know how to, uh, uh, How does support other than it's I created it for you. So if you, if you want to be laugh, go here. It, I love that so much. I'm excited to tune in, and I think it's interesting as you stand in that space. And I know like you have a passion for being on stage too. What are you trying to do as far as what's next?

I mean, you did this album what's ahead for 20, 22 more stages. Mine inclusive. Yeah, so, I mean, I'm from Canada and it's cold here right now. It's, it's snowing outside. As we speak and show the early part of 2022, I'll be touring the states I'll be in, uh, in, in Florida all the way to Los Angeles. And I just got a contract with carnival cruises.

They're sending me to Hawaii and some other places. So I'll be able to, uh, hopefully during that process record my next comedy album and, uh, You don't share that with the rest of the world. Let me ask you a question to you because people that come to you are, uh, they want to be more purpose-driven and they want to be able to take what they have and, uh, help it be of service to others.

If you were me, how would you leverage that? Um, they love that. I first off love that you're going to do something with carnival, I think through like your ability for commercials. I think through your ability to actually storytell somebody's brand through humor and sound. Um, I think it would be a really fun project to like work with thought leaders and influencers and take what their messages are and their stories are and turn them into your craft.

Um, so that more eyes, more attention gets drawn to. Um, that would be like a service I'd be interested in. Right. Cause I appreciate humor and I love music, but I'm only so funny and my kids are my, my greatest fans and then myself included. I make myself laugh all day long, but I think it would be a really unique way of getting in touch.

Even with large brands. It kind of makes me think through what your experience was, um, under armor. And how they utilize your craft, but they just pulled that from something that was already created. Imagine if they actually had to sit and consult with you and you were able to construct something that really spoke to their audience on a granular level, based on their areas of research that they've already.

That's actually, I'm already in the process of doing that. I don't the reason why it's not in my bio is cause it's kind of unsexy, right? Oh, I think it's so sexy. Think about storytelling they know of Donald Donald Donald Miller and the StoryBrand concept. Um, I think about the incredible thought leaders that love humor.

I think I can mean Tim Tony Robbins would be amazing. Tim story would be amazing to utilize your. Yeah, no, absolutely. It's uh, so right now I'm working with, uh, with one of the big sponsors is like a shaving company. They would, they were trying to get millennials to be able to shave with these new products or something.

So they need someone to appeal to them through humerus. We're creating these short sketches, I'm writing with them. And actually, uh, on the other side of the fence, the UN has. He hired me to create content around social environmental awareness, because if people are doing, there's not a lot of humor around that space though.

There's not. So this last week I'm in, I'm doing comedy clubs and I'm like trying social environmental jokes, like.

Well, I'm going to give it another shot this week and see what happens, but that's part of the process, right? You got to go to the club, you got to take your best shot and when they don't work, just rework it and try it again. Totally. Well, I think that's incredible, but you can also think through the fact of like corporate entities, corporate environments, universities, right.

They're always looking for what you're doing. Non-profits even especially heavy concept nonprofits, kind of like what you're talking about with this UN experience. If they deal with like childhood cancer, like, like pediatric cancer, they deal with sex trafficking. Um, their conferences are not generally aligned towards, or their, um, community efforts are not generally aligned towards humor, but what if they were, what if they were able to connect people?

Cause I think that's the most unique thing about music and laughter. And magic. My friend just won ADT earlier this year, and it's such an element of where I've seen people of every ethnicity, every age bracket, every way, shape and form of life, right. Come together under this. This is really funny. And so I think that there is just a really unique lens of what you have and how you do it.

I mean, like I said, I was really blown away the first time that I saw you take your craft to study. Thank you. And, and, um, I'm trying to, again, as you said before, just expand on that. And hopefully in the process, like while carnival is sending me all over the world on these cruises, maybe I can just deliver a little nugget of information to, uh, to the rest of these people.

I have a strange situation where I just have like this unreal level of optimism, where I assumed that I could do anything, even though it's so far from the truth. It's. That's what I'm stuck with. And maybe, I don't know that it is, I don't know that I don't, I don't think that any of my ideas are too outlandish.

Like literally having a conversation with my husband on the way home the other day. And he was looking at my plan for 20, 22. And he was like, oh, all of that. I'm like, yeah, my team, we're doing our planning thing this morning for two hours. And they're like, and you want to add that? Like it's possible. I think anything is possible.

I think when you rise to something that gets you excited every day, your energy creates momentum. That those other things, not only attract people to help support in the vision, but also allows you to then realize that you're gaining traction and that those things are working. So when I think of a dream, it biblically, we know that our even our greatest desire do not far.

Exceed what God has in store for us. And so I think if I dream really, really big, he's going to blow my mind. It's going to be that much bigger. So I think you should do that. That's what I have been doing. And maybe that's why these opportunities are coming because they think, I look at like the like Tinkerbell, like if I could just spread some pixie dust on people, as I, as I go into their, their city, then maybe we can make a change that way going for it.

I think it's amazing. I think utilizing the language and infusing it into your bio and what you do on a consistent basis is going to be really powerful and getting even your balanced artists conversation. Um, through your podcast, maybe bringing on different people than what you originally thought would be the target audience of interviewee and having these conversations from like a corporate entity, a nonprofit entity, these more serious tonalities are thought leaders that then you could explore the concept of, of laughter art creation through.

I've done a little bit of that just for my own interest sake. So I started out with like I'm interviewing influencers and Grammy winners and all that. And then I just dived into. The couple started pitching me for interview thing. And I was like, sure, you're a psychic. I would love to know. And you're, you're a, you're a private investigator.

Let's do this. Like, I would love to learn more about that. And you know, it's, it's been fun. It's been a fun ride. I love that. And you know, I think when we think through the concept of creation and creators and creative, That's what we're all essentially doing just in our own lane. And so the more that we allow ourselves to be creative and honestly lean back into like the dreaming that we did when we were little and we're asked, what are you going to be?

And it was always these wild things. Like you never generally hear someone say something normal. That's my seven year old daughter and she's like, I'm going to be a first and second grade teacher. And I'm like, that's amazing way. Really. My son on the antithesis is going to have a massive farm, make $21,000 a week.

He just told me this the other day at dinner and he's going to fund beds and food for children in Africa. Like, cool. That's amazing. Let's go. Right. So what if we started dreaming that big again? And we allowed ourselves to go there and create it? Cause I think that we're PO it's possible. Anything's fine.

But what age do we just, what, what needs do we just lose our dreams and start thinking more in a reality sense? Cause I'm trying to, I'm trying to shift that myself with my own children, but like what? But it happens with everybody, right? You don't want it to be donkey. Yeah, based on Nintendo. That's so good.

I think that, there's the, I think that there's the component of, okay. Maybe you were intended to create experiences and entertainment and you were, you were drawn to the entertainment industry, which you already are in currently, but yeah, the lens of like, I can be Superman versus I am Superman towards children who are struggling in this.

Possible boys and girls club was probably created by somebody who wanted to be a superhero for somebody that they weren't experiencing when they were younger. As you were talking, I just, I just coming up, came up with the answer is probably middle school. That's where the kids lose their dreams is because yes, exactly.

Right. It's like you have all these great aspirations and then it's like, it's thick. It's those kids that just ruin everything for you. So how do we, how do we avoid that? How do we, how do we navigate around that? I think better, better leaders. I think being better leaders in the forefront of. Big dreaming and, and allowing our children to have those conversations and experiences with us.

I don't think that there's anything wrong with telling them and then us not being able to achieve it and then talking them through, ah, we couldn't do this one thing. Right? Mama, didn't figure it out this time, but I'm going to next time. Um, and allowing them, ask them questions. That's little people, questions about your dream and see what they.

How do we create a platform like this for that age demographic, for like the 12 to 16 year olds? Like they don't necessarily listen to these types of podcasts. Right. But I think what is it? Eight year? You're the average of the five people you hang out with influencers that might be podcast that people of inspiration.

So how do we get those people of value to like talk to those young people? So interesting. This is so weird that you're bringing this up. I'm in the process of planning. Like kid preneur, young preneur retreat, where they're either partnered with someone who is an entrepreneur and then they bring a sponsored child.

It could be like their niece, their nephew, or a kid that they know that their parents would trust them. Or it's a parent child experience where they're actually going to go on an adventurous retreat where they're going to establish their entrepreneurial path for the next year or two. So business plan cultivation.

Creating that YouTube channel or that Instagram, what's their message. What's their branding, all of those things in this environment that then will lead to an opportunity for mentorship, um, ambassadorship and a university eventually. But I think that this is the problem and also the solution, right? The problem is that they're not being cultivated now when the dreams are really, really big, so they're suppressed.

And then they get put onto the rat wheel of society to say, this is your next step. And they just assume, because everybody else is doing it, that the parent or the institution is correct. And they let go of what was in order to be what everybody else is. That sounds amazing. Yeah, it's going to be fun doing this.

It's great. It is. And you need the, you need a person that is able to speak to people of that age. Right. And so I think like having the you're you're right, having like the, the, you know, bring your, your kid along to the, uh, to the, to the retreat or whatever. I just, you know, they may not listen to the parent, but if there's someone here that can influence the kid, then a hundred percent, or even if there's like a parallel.

Age bracket of kids. Cause I was thinking between like that 13, 12 to like 18, 13, 17 time frame is they see the relationship unfolding with other people of that stature, the older one to the younger one and what they could learn from that, even in that environment. And then you have little hubs of conversation of the young entrepreneurs together and they bring.

Flourish purpose within one another. And same thing for the parental view or the ambassador view, to be able to say, what are they doing? How are they doing? Oh, that's a brilliant idea. I hadn't thought about that. Um, but really it's just stewardship. It's stewardship from the young and it's stewardship for the olders to be able to impart what.

Yeah, no, no, that's, that's perfect. And there is a age where that happens. I remember I've done a lot of school talks like the younger they get. It's like, you know, talk a little bit of blank faces there. You get the jokes. Yeah. You're like, this is harder than the adult crowd. Really cool. Rory, I have so enjoyed talking to you.

I can't wait. Unpack and, and plan some of these initiatives and hear what you have to say to invest in it. But in the meantime, I'm going to go listen to your humerus album. Tell us again what the name of it. Modern day problems, modern day problems. Spotify, is it on YouTube? Can we see you doing it? You can see the music video on YouTube.

You can go to, um, you can go to the Instagram at where, regarding music on Tik TOK. I'm at Rory Gardner music. We got a, it's hilarious about Tik TOK. Like I'm trying to, are you on Tech-Talk I'm on there, but I'm not presently on. And that's great. It's a ridiculous platform that I can not figure out how to like, turn it into anything else.

I've got over 30 million views on this platform, but I can not figure out how to get these people to the shows like I'm trying to somehow convert. Yeah. Um, do you, did you get to meet Brooke? J Lacey? She was at the conference. She didn't speak, but she was sitting front row. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So she's like, tick-tock famous Brookdale Lacey, and she has these conversations.

She's like, you know, I could have all these views, but what does that actually doing? What is that doing for my business? What is that doing for my purpose? And she's a mental health advocate on that show, but she's like a tech guru and crypto off that optic dock. And so it's how, what does it, where's the parallel of providing not only your time, it's like you said, I was vac.

I don't want to create a tick tock video and then be like created by Tik TOK video today. Check. No, like what's the point? What's the purpose? How am I serving? And is it actually creating traction? That's going to convert to further the impact. I don't want people just sitting around. Exactly. I would love to tell you the answer to that, but

like an hour before this conversation. I don't know what to do with it. I cannot wait to see it. I'm sure it'll be hilarious. And comical and lighthearted. And maybe not, maybe you just flip the script on people and they're like, what's going on? Why is this guy so serious and artistic come over here and check out my funny.

Yeah, I've tried that and I get no views, so, okay. Nevermind. Don't do that terrible idea. All right, Rory, it was an amazing chatting with you guys. Definitely follow, worry Gardner on all of the platforms and we will be in touch soon. Can't wait to see you in person again at grow your business for God.

Thanks for having me looking forward to it.

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